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Toyota wants hydrogen to succeed so bad it’s paying people to buy the Mirai (techcrunch.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Toyota wants hydrogen to succeed so bad it’s paying people to buy the Mirai::Toyota is offering some amazing deals for its hydrogen fuel cell-powered Mirai. That is, if customers can find the hydrogen to power it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, EV's had that same obstacle, and have pretty much overcome it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I disagree, EV are the exact opposite. Electricity was EVERYWHERE even before the EV were a thing.

A regular plug can charge an electric car and for few thousands $ you can install an 11 or 22kW charger.

Hydrogen on the other hand is extremely hard to store and transport. Unlike electricity the hydrogen production is very limited right now and full of unknown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Exactly, the point is scarcity

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't think they're the same at all. Electricity distribution is practically everywhere already. Even if you need fast charging, setting it up in comparison to setting up a petrol or especially a hydrogen station, is extremely easy and extremely cheap, relatively speaking.

One hydrogen station cost millions to install. People assume based on the appearance that they'd be like a petrol station, but it's actually a fair bit more of an engineering challenge. Plus there's shitloads of costly red tape surrounding them (because hydrogen go boom if you're not careful).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

As did ICE vehicles when they came on the scene. People seem to get really upset that manufacturers are exploring multiple possibilities rather than all of them collectively deciding on a single option as if everyone in the country drives the same car and has the same needs.