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“we’ve waited too long to open the aperture on the solution sets in terms of what we need, as a society, to start reducing emissions,” Woods told Fortune

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (28 children)

Far be it from me to tell a Lemmy mob not to eat an oil exec, but wow that's not even close to what the article says.

“So we’ve got to find a way to get the cost down to grow the utility of the solution, and make it more available and more affordable so that you can begin the [clean energy] transition.”

As per the article, this exec is saying the exact opposite of "it's too late to transition to clean energy so we might as well not bother." He's saying "it's taking too long because it's too expensive, so we need to focus on making it cheaper so we can get there faster."

Is he lying about wanting to hasten the transition to clean energy? Maybe.

Are there other reasons that he is a fiend that must be eaten by the working class? Likely. Article hints at some of them.

But wow this take is off base. These guys do a good enough job making themselves look bad, we don't have to also make stuff up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"So we’ve got to find a way to get the cost down to grow the utility of the solution"

As if they don't have a significant sum of all the worlds money. If its too expensive they should be eating all the cost, since they are the ones that put us in this mess, knowingly. They shouldn't be complaining that it costs too much. Maybe instead of wasting all that money lobbying against climate science, they could have put all that money into decarb and renewables. We are lightyears behind where we could be and why? Because they lied about what they knew and had to keep lying about it and maintaining the narrative that there is no problem. Can't get anybody to believe that anymore so now they say they need more time and money and its just too hard guys. No excuses for these vampires.

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