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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don't think it is inherently unethical to work for a defense supplier, but it obviously depends on the country it is supplying. We in the West certainly need a strong defense industry. China and Russia both have publicly declared their intention to conquer other countries. Just ask Ukraine or Taiwan. Or Europe. Europe can't properly support Ukraine because its defense industry is so fragmented, politicized and atrophied.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We in the West certainly need a strong defense industry.

But our defense industry sells arms to more or less anyone willing to pay. Most types of arms have basically become commodities, and the net effect of anyone producing more is that arms become cheaper and more accessible worldwide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I'm no expert on arms control, but I'm pretty sure the industry in the West can only sell to approved countries. But, yes, I take your point that there is always some form of arms race happening in the world and keeping the arms industry going means having to sell more arms, which will be used to kill people at some point. Unfortunately, we still need a defense industry.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Good point.

I'd think that the work these folks in Ukraine are doing would be an example of ethical (and, my God, it must be fulfilling) defense work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We in the West certainly need a strong defense industry. China and Russia both have publicly declared their intention to conquer other countries. Just ask Ukraine or Taiwan.

But just don't ask Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Lybia, Panama, Afghanistan, Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen... am I right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Korea seems like a really bad example for you, since the South relies on the US to prevent invasion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder who was leading South Korea for like forty years after the war? There's no way it would a fascist dictator was it? Yes, no peace treaty was ever signed. What is your point exactly? Why do you think the north has somehow less of a claim than a country that had to be propped up by the world's biggest bully for decades?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Come on, more even the north admits they don't want unification, just that South Korea is their number one enemy.

As for the dictator, yes the was bad and dark times. But nowadays SK definitely doesn't want to get taken over by NK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, since literally this year. Nearly sixty years on.

As for the dictator, yes the was bad and dark times.

The US didn't seem to.see that as a problem.