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Cows aren't human
Dairy cattle can be happy
Hope that helps.
Sooo? They are thinking and feeling individuals. Or do you imply that basically anything can be done to beings, when they are not human?
So could be slaves and/or exploited children. But would that make it right?
It's appalling to even imply the existence of a happy slave.
Would you be happy with dairy farming if the cows didn't have brains but we're just headless bags that worked with an autonomic nervous system only?
If so it's a question of degree.
Personally: I've interacted with cows sufficiently to see they don't compare to a cat in intelligence, and I have issues with people keeping cats.
Cows are some of the dumbest creatures we've domesticated - second only to sheep.
I don't think they should be abused but I don't think they're being abused by giving dairy.
I'd be fine with them being brainless. I'm fine with them being nigh unto brainless as they are now.
So, I'm not 100% getting where you are going with this argument, but I think what you are saying is: If beings have less brain capability they are less worthy of being treated with the same respect as beings with higher brain capabilities. And ultimately, that it would be OK to kill beings that have less brain capabilities.
Could you spell out for me what is needed for a cow to give milk? Because I think we need to clarify "what actually happens" to cows in that process in order to classify something as abuse or not.
Yes. Just like you don't have any qualms squishing ants.
Very aware of dairy cows and the veal industry. Also aware that herd animals do not give a single fuck about their young.
Hope that helps.
Yes but they're not suffering or feeling pain on any dairy farm worth talking about. We're not talking about the abhorrent practices of factory farming, we're talking the ethics of dairy, period.
They weren't laughing in the gas chambers you sick fuck. What the fuck is wrong with you. How dare you cheapen the horror of children clawing at the doors screaming.
So you're cool with the 10%? cause so am I.
I would personally torture every cow on earth if it saved a single human child.