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Jellyfin: The Free Software Media System

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Anyone have a good source that explains how to setup and find safe media. Computer literacy is not my strong point.

[–] possiblylinux127 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Buy Blurays and rip them to your machine. From there copy them into Jellyfin.

You will need a Bluray reader, Handbrake and MakeMKV

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

@possiblylinux127 @Bluefalcon

In this order:

  1. Rip the BluRay-Disk (or DVD) with MakeMKV, you will got the film with all languages and subtitles in one MKV-File;
  2. Shrink the MKV-File with Handbrake and save it as H264/H265 or better as AV1 (better because open-source and the future).

#Film #Movie #rip #Bluray #MKV #MakeMKV #Handbrake

[–] possiblylinux127 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Do not use AV1 or at least don't use it as of now as it isn't supported my most devices. I think there is exactly one phone that supports it as of now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Eh, Chromecast has AV1 and so do some smart TVs already. If that is your primary watching platform, encode away in AV1 and get an Arc A380 for the rest. It will also massively decrease encoding times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I know the nVidia Shield doesn't have it, and I'm not replacing that any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’m switching to AV1. But I’ve also been following its progress for years and understand the benefits and drawbacks. I wouldn’t recommend blindly jumping in if you’re new.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

@possiblylinux127
@PM_Your_Nudes_Please
@Bluefalcon

A lot of newer Android-TV-Settop-Boxes are ready for AV1, for example products from Orbsmart.de like my Orbsmart S87L.
On that box is Kodi preinstalled and you can install everything from android-stores, also the Jellybin-client.

Don't forget: Jellybin is a very good open-source-software, but a client-server-system. So you need Hardware for the server-software.

#Jellyfin #Kodi #Orbsmart #AndroidTV #Settopbox #AV1

[–] possiblylinux127 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

*Jellyfin

My point is that H264 is well supported everywhere so I personally am in no hurry to switch. Non of my devices support AV1 so it is a waste of my time for the most part.

What's worse is when I first started a bunch of people recommended AV1 which lead to Jellyfin not working.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

And you're the norm, not the exception. Too many people choose to evangelize instead of looking at real-world use cases for the majority. I used to use Nvidia boxes around the house with Kodi. It worked but my wife and kids sure thought it was a pain in the rear often enough that it made it a pain for me too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You also need hardware behind the client, for it being able to do hardware decoding. Unless you want the server to constantly transcode everything you watch, for all phones and PC clients..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

@clemensg @possiblylinux127 @PM_Your_Nudes_Please @Bluefalcon A lot of Android TV boxes also come with malware pre-installed. I am not familiar with any particular box by name, but it’s not a small percentage of them. I’d exercise caution with using anything pre-installed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Untrue, all my devices support av1 at this point, so that's only your mileage.

I am happy with av1 and its awesome space savings over h264.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Over h264 sure, but h265? Hardly worth it for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

In my experience the saving over h265 is still consistent and given that hardware h265 is less common that av1 on new devices, from h264 there is no need to go h265 but directly to av1 is better if you need to do the job.

Keep h264 otherwise.

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm not sure what devices you have but if they were made before 2023 you likely are using software decoding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

av1 is going to be super niche and never fully adopted, just like ogg was for audio. h264/265 will be the main thing going for years and is just fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Are you aware that all android devices with A14 have av1 support as a requirement?

Also Apple is adding that, and amazon sticks already support av1 natively.

Said that, indeed h264 is and will be the safest and most supported choice for a very long time.

As 265 goes, not so sure.

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 8 months ago

I doubt it. In a decade its probably going to be the standard. It just takes time for devices to support it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't necessarily need to shrink them, but you can.

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 8 months ago

You should as storage is expensive and is slows down performance to do more reads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Worth noting that AV1 is less compatible with older devices. My old Samsung TV, for instance, refuses to play them. It can’t DirectPlay AV1, so the server tries to transcode. But even when transcoding, the stream still fails. If you have an older smart TV, you may want to stick with h264 for compatibility reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also of you can stand the quality check out DVDs in charity shops or second hand online (Ebay etc). (And give away / resell after you made a "backup".)

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To keep a copy of the media in Jellyfin you need to have a physical copy with the server. You also probably shouldn't share it with friends unless you are living together.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You may need to keep the physical copy for it to be legal or moral according to your own ethics but from a purely technical standpoint there is absolutely no need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, fair, but depending on where you are you're already in illegal territory if you're circumventing DRM on the discs (e. g. Germany, I think).

(And how likely is it that I 1. get busted for pirating when not torrenting/downloading and 2. will make the copyright trolls believe me that I actually legally bought this movie at a charity shop five years ago? Has that ever hapenend?)

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 8 months ago

My technical needs are heavily dictated by legal obligations

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What do you mean by "safe media"?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m guessing he means how to sail the high seas without getting scurvy if you know what I mean

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Drink lots of water and eat your fruits and veggies of course!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Vitamin Sea ^I'll see myself out^

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where I don't have to throw my PC out afterwards due to virus and malware.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When looking for media online, you pretty much just need a good adblocker and the sense not to run any random executables.

The media files themselves are very unlikely to have malware attached. They would need to exploit a bug in the specific video player you are using and then exploit another bug in your OS to get admin privileges before doing any real damage. It's pretty much just theoretical. Keep your stuff up to date and don't worry about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s worth mentioning that the biggest concern, depending on your country, is getting in trouble with your ISP. That’s where a VPN comes to play.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Only if you torrent. Newsgroups still work wonders!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The good old Arr Stack is worth looking into.

Radarr (movies), Sonarr (TV), Prowlarr (for finding things), Bazarr (if you're in the subtitles gang, but most newer rips already contain it), VPN (to keep out nosey lawyers).

Only the VPN costs money, and it may be optional depending on where you are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That doesn't really resolve the problem of is the media safe.

From a cybersecurity standpoint you should be validating the mime type of the media at a minimum (The actual magic number, not the extension). And running it through ClamAV as well, ideally, before it's released to your media library.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You may be better off using streamio, torrentio (a plugin for streamio,) and real-debrid.

It’s a bit more straight forward and doesn’t involve all the setup of downloading, organizing, and hosting the media.