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Help with wheelchair software (self.piracy)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by win95 to c/[email protected]

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Ahoy!

I got a new phone yesterday. I also use a wheelchair. The wheels have an app called "e-motion M25" which I used on my old phone. I patched it using lucky patcher since most functions (turn wheels on, cruise control, remote to drive the wheelchair to my current chair) are behind an incredible expensive paywall.

Since I don't own the wheels (they're technically still insurance property) and the software isn't super reliable, I won't pay over €300 just to use my wheels.

But I can't seem to patch it on my new phone, even when sharing the patched app directly from my old one. The store simply won't open. I've not been rooted since forever and prefer not to root at all, since it was possible to do so on my old phone.

Would anybody care to help me out or give me some tips on where to look? Thanks in advance!

UPDATE after spending my entire morning on the floor, I installed older versions of the app until I found one that worked with luckypatcher. I know it's a small chance but if someone using the same wheels finds this post, you have to figure out how to download luckypatcher and use this version of the app. In lucky patcher create a multi patch APK and make sure to turn off "billing" in the second screen. When opening the store, be careful not to scroll to the complete bottom or else the app wil crash. Buy each pack individually and lucky patcher will handle things from there.

To every commenter: thank you. Lemmings are the best and capitalism is the devil.

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[–] [email protected] 310 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Never I thought I'd be reading about a wheelchair locked behind paywalls. What a ridiculous world we live in.

Edit: I'm glad you figured something out and that those profiteers won't get a cent out of it.

[–] win95 93 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I'm imagining your shock when I tell you the cost of my entire wheelchair, which is a manual wheelchair with push assistance (like an e-bike).

[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Si what you're saying is that we need open source wheelchairs?

[–] [email protected] 99 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For fucks sake why isn't all assitive devices open source already. Making profit over disabled people misery is such a evil thing ! The capitalist are so fucking out of touch it's crazy. Kids dying, disabled people pressed for every penny they have etc... how the fuck did we let things go this bad.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Captive market. Easy prey.

Call it what you want, those with no morals have no boundaries. This is what laws are supposed to prevent, but y'know, the sociopaths have normalised greed and gluttony, and made it the "dream" of a nation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason behind no open source is some stupid legislation for 'reasons'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

My colleague built an ultrasound walking stick for his wife, but can't even give units to the local sight-impaired community organization due to regulations... He's given up on getting his design certified.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Open source wheelchairs; and a community of variously abled makers who can come together and build assemblies that are "not medical devices" but come together easily into something that could be used as such.

Speaking strictly for the US, and as a non-lawyer - I'm inclined to think that an open source wheelchair would probably sail right through the 510k process, but... Still doesn't make that process cheap by any means.

I've had similar thoughts re: CPAP/APAP machines, neither the SW nor the HW is brutally complex / poorly understood. Pretty straightforward stuff mostly. But trying to distribute a thing like that even as plans is just asking for a C&D from the FDA, I'd expect.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Insurance companies: you wouldn’t download a wheelchair.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mine is also manual, with a push assist(smart drive) its MSRP is 16k!

The software is also really stupid, you have to use a stupid smart watch to control it! You can get other controls(for some functions only) but they didn't come with the chair without additional costs. The smart watch sucks and my better watch which is also WearOS can't download the app from the store for some reason... I'd much rather be able to just connect my phone directly.

[–] win95 2 points 8 months ago

Most people in my disability community use the smart drive and always have issues! It's why I didn't wanna make the change, also the manual bit when the smart drive isn't on is still too hard for me. But my wheels are like 20kg now which also suck. Anyway, I keep hearing my friends say the same about the smart watch and then it breaking and others recommending letting them build a button on the chair for the drive because the watch KEEPS BREAKING. I have so many strong feelings about all of this honestly.

I may have had a mental breakdown when I still hadn't found a cute backpack after 5 years, that I truly loved and was my style. Lol.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or indeed a wheelchair locked behind an app.

Oh gee we can't be bothered to update our app any more. That'll be all our chairs useless in 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

There will probably be a new app for the new chairs. You'll have to upgrade the chair to keep using the app support.