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submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying that your support is irrelevant. If you tried to be put them into place, you would be fought by extremely powerful interests. This is the only possible way capitalism could be moral, we've tried to do it, and it's not happening.

That's why we look to throw that system away.

[–] darkevilmac 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What exactly makes you think that communism is going to remove people having power over other people? That seems to just be intrinsic to humans in general, your economic system isn't going to change that.

And you can absolutely have social support systems in place if the populous pushes for them. Homeless shelters and welfare aren't impossible ideas, they're actively implemented across the world. The same goes for basic needs like healthcare.

Just because your government or community hasn't implemented it doesn't mean it's not possible to do so. It means you need to convince those around you that it's a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

There are many paths to this, and I'm not yet settled on anything quite yet. I am convinced that the Marxist-Leninist branch (basically the USSR and Maoist China and the like) went completely down the wrong path; its focus on a vanguard party makes it particularly susceptible to cults of personality. Not just in the Soviet Union and such, but even much smaller groups aligned with that branch that pop up on college campuses.

A good start is getting everyone unionized. Beyond that, there is lots of theory behind mutual aid (such as (Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Aid:_A_Factor_of_Evolution], which also is something of a precursor to kin selection theory in evolution), and Anarcho-Syndicalists also have some ideas on how to organize groups into almost completely flat hierarchies that all work to mutual benefit.