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Because they don't need more money.
They need to spend less. It's not about putting food on the table. It's about living as lavish a lifestyle as possible to show off in front of your peers.
Hmm I think you're thinking about like the 1% of actors who are rich and famous.
Most actors are not in that situation. They are just working people like anyone else only their income is precarious like any freelancer.
No, I'm thinking about the vast majority of people who live in LA.
They're just passing a bunch of money around at the top. As soon as they make more, prices go up and the world's poorest continue to stagnate.
Surely even in LA a lot of the actors are waiters/bit part extras?
As for world poverty I agree it's more inportant than better payment for workers in wealthy nations, but I think it's ok to care about both.
I guess I wasn't one of the vast majority of people who lived in L.A. I was just working crew and occasional actor. My money went to things like rent and food. Weirdly, most of my colleagues were in the same boat.
Now admittedly, there are millions of people in L.A., but a lot of the ones in the entertainment industry sure as hell weren't passing money around, we were barely making a living.
Yeah, a living in one of the most expensive cities in the world.
You could be living a cheaper life anywhere else, but you feel entitled to live in LA.
No sympathy from me. Spread out.
I live in a cheaper place now. Indiana. My quality of life is not especially different. I didn't feel entitled to live in L.A., I went where I could put my skills to good use. Being paid a low wage in L.A. was a higher wage than a low wage in Indiana, but the cost of living is also higher.
Maybe don't make guesses about how other people live their lives.
And let me guess- I shouldn't have moved to Indiana, I should have moved to Botswana or something if I don't want to feel "entitled."
No, moving to Indiana is fine. Thank you for sharing.
So I don't feel "entitled" to live in a first-world country where I have things like running water and electricity? Seems like the same sort of "entitled" as living in a city where you have a job that you think is the best job for what you want to do with your life. Shouldn't I be working in a strip mine in Mongolia or not ever complain about my life?
Or is Los Angeles somehow a special case?
I just said Indiana was fine.
California is the most expensive state to live in. People don't need to live there and would be using capital more efficiently elsewhere.
I'm not in the camp of "all or nothing." I think magnitude matters and we can all be doing more to reduce the disparity in wealth besides "making more money."
If California was totally depopulated, another state would be the most expensive state and you could make the same claim.
Not really. It's supply and demand. Even if another state were the new most expensive, that doesn't mean it will be as expensive as California is now.
Okay, what is the acceptable level of "expensive" where people have a right to complain about not being paid enough?
Anyone who makes more wealth than average gets no sympathy from me when complaining about money.
However, anyone has the 'right' to complain about anything. It's called freedom of speech.
Got it.
https://www.credit.com/blog/average-american-net-worth/
I wasn't worth a tenth of that in L.A.
So I guess I had the right to complain.
I mean global average.
https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/lifestyle/the-50-countries-with-the-highest-median-wealth-per-capita/
Therefore, according to you, most people living well below the poverty line in America still have no right to complain about how much they get paid.
Yep. They get no sympathy from me when the vast majority of people in the world still have less.
Once they make more money, prices go up and the children in Africa continue to starve.
So basically less than one percent of Americans should be unhappy about what they're being paid. They could live in a shack with no running water, but because they're worth $9000, they have no right to complain.
That's really what you think?
Yep. They should understand that they still have more wealth than the vast majority of people ever to walk to Earth. Not many Americans are in that position though. The problem is that $9k "isn't a lot" in the US because most of our money is being siphoned by those richer than us.
If we reduced the disparity in wealth, $9k could be a lot.
It's important we help out those at the bottom, not those towards the top. Even below "America's" poverty line, you're still globally more wealthy than most people can ever hope to be. As soon as you make more money, prices get up so the world's poorest continue to stagnate. This is why inflation is a good thing for the ruling class.
If I'm worth $9000, I am at the bottom. And I'm living like the people in third world countries. You sound like you're coming from a very privileged position and do not know what poverty in America is like. There are children literally starving in this country because their parents can't afford to feed them enough, even with food assistance. And then there's healthcare. Good luck if you have a long-term or chronic illness in America. In plenty of third-world countries, they still have socialized medicine.
But if you're worth $9000 in America and you have cancer, you have no right to complain. Just die. This is your logic.
Poverty in America is nothing compared to poverty in Africa, or most parts of the world.
Ironic how you say I'm the one speaking from a position of privilege.
On the children starving in the US, it's usually because parents are struggling to pay rent. Rent goes up when they make more money. The system is designed to keep people barely alive so they're in no position to change it. Just work and pay bills till you literally can't do it anymore.
I think the US should have universal healthcare, so I'm not sure what your point on cancer is.
I'm not going to argue the person worth $9k in the US should make more money just so it can be funneled to landlords and executives. I'm going to argue landlords and executives should be making less profit so those with less money can be catered to as well. The only way they'll make less if they're forced to, and that involves spreading out away from the most expensive places to live. Not "making more money." All the latter does is drive up inflation, which is what we're seeing now.
You clearly are.
And it doesn't matter what America should have. We are talking about America as it is now. And, based on your logic, anyone in America today with a long term or chronic disease that can't afford to pay for it should just die. Their family has no right to complain that they can't afford care.
They also have no right to complain, according to you, if they can't afford electricity or plumbing.
If you can't afford electricity, plumbing or healthcare, how is your life different from people living in poverty in Africa? What is the effective difference? Other than, according to you, having no right to complain.
No, that's where the irony comes from. You think poverty in America is comparable to poverty in Africa.
It does matter what American's 'should have.' You're trying to argue they 'should have' more money. I'm arguing they should have to pay less.
Here you go saying 'x doesn't have a right to complain.' I told you before, everyone has a right to complain about anything. It's called freedom of speech and I support it.
If you can't afford any of that stuff in the US, there are plenty of social programs to help you out that you will not get in Africa. The fact you're trying to conflate the two just speaks to your position of privilege. You really don't know how bad things are outside of the US.
If you can't afford food in the US, we have EBT. If you can't afford housing, we have government assisted housing that can literally cover your expensive apartment rent.
If you can't afford that stuff in Africa or most of the world, you die of starvation and suffer from exposure. Not to mention that being in a nation of excess also results in a higher quality of life all around you, such as from the infrastructure you benefit from. You can wash your face in a McDonald's, that's better than the slumwater of Burundi.
Such as? Which ones do all people in poverty qualify for? If that's true, why do people live in shacks without electricity or running water? Do they choose to live that way for the fun of it? Is this one of those "they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps" thing?
And if people don't have the right to complain, I guess the actors have the right to do what they're doing and you have no point.
I edited my previous post to highlight the benefits of social programs in the US.
I never said the actors don't have a right to do what they're doing. My point was, from the beginning, that they will get no sympathy from me for doing it. Why does that bother you so much?
And yes, believe it or not, some people do choose to live in shacks without any electricity or running water.
In fact, everyone I met living that lifestyle was doing it because of choice (or mental health, but it's a different discussion to identify which.)
OK we get it. You hate actors and anything that gets close to them. Now go hang out in shit posts.
No, I don't hate actors. You clearly don't get it.
I keep saying I have no sympathy for greedy people. Globally speaking, most people living in LA are wealthy. They're just passing that wealth around at the top which is why other places of the world stagnate.
It's a cultural issue. You're just upset someone is criticizing that culture of consumerism.
You're not making any useful point. Just screaming into the void. I'm not really sure how you don't see this as turning into a much bigger problem. When Ai is able to synthesis human labor those at the bottom get fucked first.
I've been very clear about the points I'm making.
Are you arguing we shouldn't replace labor with robots because humans wouldn't have to work? Can you see how backwards that is?
I think doing so without some changes to our capitolist society is going to cause a lot of pain and suffering.
I might could agree aaa level actors don't need more money, there's plenty who do. And not just actors but most everyone who makes the movies and shows we enjoy gets fucked by the producers and studios.
I guess the point is that money is being made and when it isn't going to the people actually involved in productions, it goes straight to studio executives and shareholders, including those same execs. If films are making a lot of money, why should people on certain rungs of the production ladder be working paycheque to paycheque or be being strongarmed in to signing away any hope of future earnings.
I don't really think you know the difference between 'want' and 'need.'
It's not like these people are surviving off of peanut butter sandwiches, lol. A lot of them probably think they're too good to shop at places like Walmart, too.
No, they get no sympathy from me. Not while children go without food, water, shelter, electricity, and education.
things are worse elsewhere so they shouldnt try to improve their life. great response.
i hope when you need a pay raise your boss has the same attitude.
No. People who have more wealth than average don't deserve more so long as children go without: food, water, electricity, education, and shelter.
Instead of lying about what I'm saying, why not try to argue against it? Why do you people keep putting words in my mouth? Oh yeah, because it's easier to argue against than what I'm actually saying.
Would you take a pay raise? Because you probably don't really deserve it with your fancy internet connection.
I don't need a pay raise, but I would definitely take one.
I'd rather have copyright and patent laws die.
your whole argument is things are worse in africa so they shouldnt get any more money. its a bullshit argument. everyone deserves to live a better life. with that argument we might as well go back to the robber baron days because people had it worse than the striking workers even back then. after all why should someone with 4 walls a roof and a bed complain about their working conditions, others have it worse. "oh your 7yo lost her right arm in an industrial accident? dont complain theres people who dont have any jobs to go to." great argument.
yes we as a whole global community should be doing a lot more for the least of us but most of the people that bring us entertainment arent swimming in gold pools ala scrooge mcduck. like the vast majority of americans they are barely getting by. and besides the money not going to everyone else making movies and tv shows arent going to make the lives of anyone else better but the studio execs and producers.
Sorry, I didn't read that long-winded comment.
You didn't seem like you had anything crucial to say, just trying to double-down on rich people getting richer at everyone else's expense.
sry i not red 2 mch. u respnce doodoo.