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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shout-out to Vivaldi for forking before mv3 happens. It is chromium based but they are very openly anti-google. It's the OG Chrome devs as far as I understand.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately vivaldi is proprietary and actively hostile to the software freedom movement, but if it weren't I'd consider it as a daily driver.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vivaldi is 95% open source, and I understand that may not be enough for some but I think that's a lot better than most alternatives. It also works great.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The "only 5%" is what distinguishes it from Chromium, so it very much matters. And, that blog post is what I meant when I said they are actively hostile to the FS movement. Basically, they say users do not deserve the freedom to fork because competitors and Bad Guys can use it - very ironic for a product that is itself supposedly "95% based" on a competitor!

The argument that users should not have the freedom to fork because bad guys can use it is very similar to the idea that users should not have privacy or anonymity on the internet because it will be abused by bad guys (the so-called four horsemen of the infopocalypse).

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's definitely not what the article said about the bad guys. They said they're trying to protect the look and feel because their business model relies on their brand staying consistent so they can keep business partnerships in place to pay the bills.

They also provide nearly as much code back to the community open-source as they do closed.

If 95% isn't better than Chrome (which I switched from) idk what to tell ya. And Vivaldi is also the reason I know about the fediverse -- they openly advertise it. So it got me off reddit too. I call that by FAR a net win.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

OG Opera devs.