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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My point stands.

I shall give you another quote:

  • Life's tough when you voluntarily place yourself in the role of the victim and give away all your power.

However as you said, it's important for the game genre to maintain it's status as a difficult game that's feat to conquer and largely it's appeal. If taken away for those who are too time-constricted or don't have enough "mental capacity"(euphemism treadmill goes brrr), wouldn't it take away from those who don't have these problems?

Edit: cleanup

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Life's tough when you voluntarily place yourself in the role of the victim and give away all your power.

Ahh, that's a fascinating quote, super useful when you want to feel superior to someone you don't know. Instead of empathizing with another person's capabilities, you can simply say they suck and that it's their fault!

No, it wouldn't take anything away from players who like the hardest difficulty. Motherfuckers stack cups competitively, I'm sure FS fans can remain satisfied with their achievements if they beat the game on the hardest difficulty available. If anything, resisting the temptation to lower the difficulty should enhance the feeling of satisfaction after beating it.

"Euphemism treadmill?" I'm fucking tired after work. I lack the ""mental capacity"" to bash my head against a wall for another few hours. It becomes impossible to properly learn how to play a game when it gets frustrating. I guess I could simply stop getting frustrated by it, in the same way I could simply stop having symptoms of depression or autism.

ETA: I googled that quote, and it seems like it's only been spoken by one other person (I'm guessing one of your alts), also in the context of minimizing someone's mental condition. Let me phrase it like this: dying to the same enemy in a video game dozens of times in a row without seeing any amount of improvement in my own ability makes it difficult to justify continuing to play a game. If I'm not getting better by then, I certainly won't get better when I'm angry at the game. I'm not placing myself in the role of the victim, I'm recognizing my own abilities and lack thereof. I'm frustrated both by those abilities that I'm incapable of improving (as proven by the fact that they simply don't improve), as well as with the developers for not accommodating people like me, who are incapable of playing their games because we cannot improve our skills at them.

It's totally fine if you want to say that people with ADHD or autism or depression should simply stop acting like those are real things with real affects on people's abilities, but all it does it betray a lack of your own understanding of other people's mental conditions.

[–] v4ld1z 4 points 8 months ago

I feel so much for you, dude. Honestly sucks that people who can't, for physical, psychological or other reasons, put in the time to grind the game get left out simply because the developers don't want to accommodate. I read all your replies and sympathise a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry, I'm poor at explaining my opinions in my second language and thus it seems I can't convey my point.

However, I see your point and I do have different opinion on it. It seems we can't find common ground on the question on whether you are capable of improving to the point of beating mainstream game or not and if it should have an option for people who are too busy to learn the necessary skills.

I googled that quote, and it seems like it's only been spoken by one other person (I'm guessing one of your alts)

I also looked it up and it has wiki definition and blog article at least. Also I don't have alts, not me.

It's totally fine if you want to say that people with ADHD or autism or depression should simply stop acting like those are real things with real affects on people's abilities

Wouldn't claim that as I happen to have first hand experience. I won't elaborate under this nick, add me on Matrix if you wish to discuss more.

Good talk, gained exp, have a good one.