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Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps? (old.reddit.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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One of Spez's answers in the infamous Reddit AMA struck me

Two things happened at the same time: the LLM explosion put all Reddit data use at the forefront, and our continuing efforts to reign in costs...

I am beginning to think all they wanted to do was getting their share of the AI pie, since we know Reddit's data is one of the major datasets for training conversetional models. But they are such a bunch of bumbling fools, as well as being chronically understaffed, the whole thing exploded in their face. At this stage their only chance if survival may well be to be bought out by OpenAI...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. These things are regulated by legal documents, you don't just wake up on morning and say "trust me bro, their data is public"

If you go and read their TnC's it explicitly statea that scraping is forbidden without prioir written consent. They only allow access to their data via APIs, which of course they charge for

The fact that it can be easily scraped it's neither here nor there, if they catch you they can sue you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

99% of LLMs have pirated content and will continue to regurgitate pirated content until there is enough money at stake for a big lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Getty is already suing the Dall-E creators, and someone is suing MS for Copilot; so it's already started

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, big money users will get sued, everyone else will scrape with impunity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure but I'm not sure why you are bringing this up. What's the wider point you are trying to make?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still perplexed that some people are siding with evil ass Getty in that case. At least the copilot case has some merit but I don't see how Microsoft could lose as that would set precedent for whole AI in the US and no way US is letting that disadvantage to happen. It's meme-level lawsuits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just speculation, but I think it's because people think Getty can hire top class laywers and therefore has a better chance of winning compared to, say, the group of artists who were also taking Dall-E to court

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah Terms of Service is not enforcable through browse wrap agreement in the US and most of EU. You can't implicitly agree with a legal document just by looking at something.

Check out LinkedIn vs Hiq case which went to 9th circuit and set the precedent for this. LinkedIn lost.