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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (9 children)

That flag is a horrible design, but how does something "look gay?"

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

There's (unintentionally?) lots of symbolism here that reads as lgbtq. The male symbol being in the pink area, the female symbol being in the blue area, the male symbol has its erect phallus arrow pointing away from the female symbol, the parts of both symbols that are the same (the rings) are the only parts that touch each other, the overlapping rings create a shape that's very evocative of a butt, the background color field is at a steep angle making it very much not straight with the horizon of the flag and not straight with the orientation of the gendered symbols.

Plus in this particular photo it's two men holding the same flag which is supposed to be representing a sexuality, and the phallus of the male symbol points right at one of the men, and the material of the flag looks very satiny which is considered a very effeminate look.

All in all, it's harder to find symbolism here that actually reads as straight rather than lgbtq.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All in all, it’s harder to find symbolism here that actually reads as straight rather than lgbtq.

It's much harder to come up with something genuinely more gay. This is possibly the gayest image I have ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Adapt it as the new gay flag just to fuck with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Not right away though. That would scare them off. Give them a little time to adopt it first and start flying it at their house. THEN pull the switcheroo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

No shade intended but by any chance are you Gen Z or younger?

If so, there's some ingrained toxic social more context you might not understand because you grew up in a better society than we did.

But if you're genuinely asking...

  • Anything that acknowledges women exist? Gay
  • Anything that recognizes men in relation to others instead of as the default? Believe it or not, gay
  • Anything that involves sharing? Gay
  • Pink? Gay
  • Blue? Also gay
  • Pink and blue? Liberace
  • Diagonal lines? Gay
  • The male/female Mars/Venus signs? Gay
  • The Venus sign on a blue background? Lesbian
  • Mars sign on a pink background? Flaming gay
  • Two men standing near each other? friends of Dorothy
  • Two men holding a flag together? Gay
  • The way the one guy is pinching the corner? Super fucking gay
  • Wearing a teal shirt? Gay
  • Wearing a yellow tie? Gay

I could keep going but I think you might get the picture.

Edit: formatting

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still have relatives that say "ugh that's gay" to mean "I don't like that".

I don't speak to these relatives anymore.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It took me years to break that habit. I also worked really hard not to use the r word to mean I think something is fucking stupid.

It was common to use both of those when I was a kid. It didn't occur to me at the time that it might hurt someone (again, stupid kid). I've still caught myself using the r word on a rare occasion but I can keep trying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I used to say it, cause it was my environment in a very lgbtphobic area around lgbtphobic people to fit in, stopped saying it cause I don't want to spread hate, and started using it again, cause it is my environment in a very gay friend group and gay girlfriend cause it feels funny and good to reclaim it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I get exactly what you're saying. I'm a hetero dude but I'm around a lot of LGBTQ folks, many of whom are my friends. If something is literally homosexual (like my friend kissing her girlfriend or someone wearing a T-shirt with a homosexual themed graphic) I'll still say "That's gay!" There's at least a couple of people who use the phrase to mean that certain things are awesome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Exactly! We also like to poke fun at it ever being a "bad" thing. One of our running gags with each other, my partner and I, is to respond to something/event by saying "I think I might be gay" and the other one of us will feign horror.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's still common for people to use "narcissist" as an insult when it's the name of a mental disorder.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nope. 67 and doing my best since high school to be inclusive in my thinking.

I guess I just don't get how anyone other than a toxic fuck or at least a thoughtless stereotyper could say that most of what you point out of indicates gayness.

Someone else went through a "symbolic analysis" that helps me see some of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

a toxic fuck or at least a thoughtless stereotyper

That’s like everyone back when I was in school, me included.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, point taken. The toxic fuckery I saw and experienced and probably propogated in school is likely why I've put in effort to be better.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

I'm 40, and when I first opened the image, I was overwhelmed with how hilariously gay it looked. But not in a bad way - almost at if it were made unironically for lgbtq.

The other person that replied to you with a lengthy list is spot on.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Except for white its the same general colors as in the trans flag, maybe thats why people associate it with lgbt+ flags

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Guess you’re not a 90s kid!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Hah, definitely not! 67 on my last birthday.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The gay community adopted and have used pastels in messaging for decades, and this flag has pastels in spades.

It's not 100% of course; judging anything by sight alone is fraught*, but pastels in advertising is a pretty decent indicator.

(*) are you certain that's a Nazi Swastika, or is that skinhead Hindu?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks for putting exactly the nuance I was looking for! Symbols are important, but diversity disappears when we use symbols as a substitute for reality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I don't get it. I like pink but I hate this flag! Straight guys don't really need a flag, most of them advertise it enough. I'm straight and I find most the jokes distasteful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Things look gay by being well designed in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

How does a blue curtain look blue?