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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because it's not sold doesn't mean they're "critically endangered". You can get most if not all ROMs on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this is referring to them being officially available for purchase

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but what can you do if a lot of the companies who made the original games aren’t around anymore and didn’t sell the rights to anyone else? Even some of the people who claim piracy is immoral understand that “pirating” abandonware is perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would rather not call that piracy but latent preservation.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I do love latent preservating games I never owned

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I am cool with that. Just pass the file forward once it is searched for as lost media.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I like to think of it as fishing old games out of a dumpster. They were carelessly thrown away, no attempt is made to preserve them or make profit from them.

They are fair game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean -- the companies could have made an effort to make that money. If they don't, profits aren't automatic. I think this is clearly a grey area.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For me it's pretty black and white here. If you don't sell me something, there is no guilt anymore and I can download it for free. Same issue with TV shows in foreign languages where you can't subscribe or buy anything (I'm looking at you Poland, Japan, and any other weird country that seems to ignore the rest of the world).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Just doing what archaeologists do. But with more recent history.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should be a given that once the company dissolves the rights become open

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That wouldn't really work, unfortunately. Most companies don't just shut their doors, they're bought by someone else. That new entity would own all the company's property. Even when they do shut their doors, typically it's done with debt, and debtors end up buying the assets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the IP rights for those old abandoned games are split up between a bunch of random legal firms.

Makes it a nightmare to legally remaster or remake old games. Since a game's copyright will be owned by Law Firm A, and the trademark will be owned by Law Firm B, and the art and music will be owned by Law Firm C, but then Law Firm B says they actually own some of that art and music as part of their trademark ownership, etc etc

That makes the situation easier for piracy/unofficial ROMs though, since lawyers aren't going to do shit when they can't even figure out who legally owns a game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why we'll never get a bfme 3 but gollum gets greenlighted

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

*legally available, if those megacorps won't spend/earn a penny on running antiques or legacy services. The players can do it. And they need support from the law to do it, which in this case, Nintendo of America.

[–] ErevanDB 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

任天堂 are some real asshats when it comes to their fans.