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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You're just denying yourself a really fun experience. The game is actually really good especially if you're able to download it without paying if the whole morality thing is what's stopping you. If it's available I'd get it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I won't stand for it, it's just not worth it. There's other fun games that don't associate with mafia scum. I dislike how they steal money and consecutively contribute negatively to humanity

[–] Cethin -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You mean capitalism? Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cethin 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I dislike how they steal money and consecutively contribute negatively to humanity

Steal money, I'm assuming in this case, is sell a product. They aren't forcing anyone to buy it, but it is scummy as hell. That's capitalism for you.

Contribute negatively to humanity, I'm not sure what that means. If it means exploiting people, that's capitalism!

There are no non-indie studios not participating in this. It sucks, but the goal (in capitalism) is to maximize profits. They are attempting to milk customers as much as they can for this purpose. This game isn't even particularly bad about it. Modern gaming all is like this and it's aweful, but it is what it is. You can participate in this game or not, but this one game isn't the only place this is happening. It's happening literally everywhere, like egg prices going up due to "supply shortages" and never going back to normal. That's capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They literally steal money. That's your problem, you think they are following your rules and swallow that they are engaged in conduct that is okay without scrutinising it in the least because it would be a real hassle and you know nobody would deal with it anyway. Because this is the only way to make a difference. I am a game developer, I know the industry, the bastards in these mafia cells are straight up stealing. Nobody creative has any choice. Nobody has a fucking supply shortage. Creatives are being abused, I want to only participate when I can be assured these insane practices are not involved. It's not capitalism it's pure greedy crime

[–] Cethin -2 points 8 months ago

That's your problem, you think they are following your rules and swallow that they are engaged in conduct that is okay without scrutinising it in the least because it would be a real hassle and you know nobody would deal with it anyway.

Please, read my comment again. I scrutinized it. It's just that it's fucking everywhere. This game is getting a ton of shit for it and it isn't even a very bad offender. It sucks, but this isn't the game that deserves the hate. At least it's not loot boxes or other gambling mechanics. Also, it's not theft. It's manipulative, but it's not "literally stealing".

I want to only participate when I can be assured these insane practices are not involved.

This will never happen. If they're incentivized to do scummy things to make more profit, you can almost be assured they'll do it. Regardless, you can never be sure it's not happening. Remember how we hear about sexual abuse occasionally and it turns out it's been happening for decades? Yeah, now think about how often they're doing things that aren't technically illegal that we don't hear about.

It's not capitalism it's pure greedy crime

If greedy crime is profitable, that's capitalism incentivizing it. The goal of capitalism is to maximize profits. That goal does not align with what we should want it to. We should prioritize happiness, good, creativity, or almost anything else. That's not the system we're in though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

There are lots of good games out there from moral companies. He doesn't need to play this one.