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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is the thing I can't believe 100% of the left isn't screaming from the rooftops. Yes, we'll all vote for Biden, but we're going to have to live with the fact that we knowingly voted for a genocide supporter for the rest of our lives. Sure, we voted for the lesser genocide supporter, but that really shouldn't matter to our own sense of disgust at ourselves.

Innocent people are dying, and my vote for the guy supplying the weapons that kill them will be the most shameful moment of my life. At least, I hope it will - I don't have much faith at this point that I won't be forced to do something even worse in 4 years. And 4 years after that. And 4 years after that...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but this is the United States. We've been voting for genocide supporters for like our entire history...

That doesn't make it right, but it's not new by any means. The entire world deserves better than what we put forward time and time again :(

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right, but better late than never for people to finally start realizing it. This isn't the time to be saying "It's nothing new, move on," it's the time to be saying "It's not even new! Get mad! Fight back!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No, not better late than never. This is giving up. You're talking better "too late" then "it doesn't fucking matter any more." Because we already fucking lost.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I agree that we lost through conventional voting means, but our country was born from people forced to fight to achieve the government they wanted, and we're fully capable of doing it again. We're haven't been pushed into enough of a corner yet as a country for most people to get on board, but we're getting there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People need to stop thinking that the left "has a party." The right has two parties and the left is trying desperately to stop one from going full authoritarian.

I will tell you what happens when the GOP is served a crushing blow. The people without any real beliefs, like the Trump humpers that voted Obama, come back and devour the DNC from the inside. The game is rigged and youre not a part of the game rigging club. Get use to eating shit and start voting like your friends and families lives depend on it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

100% of the Left in the US is probably only a couple % of the population. At that, I'd bet that not more than half of us even voted Democrat. Some I know voted Green in an effort to participate, but not participate in a two party election. Who fucking cares what we shout from the rooftops?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

The fact of the matter is that voting green isn't a real resolution to the issue, it's just a way for someone to willingly not participate in the inevitable 2 party fight, while still saying they voted. The way the system works prevents any green party member from even being seen, much less meaningfully supported. And nobody voted in to one of the 2 major parties is going to change the system to make a 3rd party viable.

We no longer have a democracy - we're meant to have the true freedom to vote for who we want and have that actually be a legitimate method for someone to win, but instead we've served up 2 shitty candidates and told to pick one. It's no different than if a tyrannical monarch let us choose which of his 2 terrible children would become the next ruler after his death.

Now's exactly the time to be shouting from the rooftops, because now's exactly the time to start drumming up support for a resistance movement. We're not there yet as a country, I know, but we're heading there quick, and we should be getting people used to the idea that we have other options than voting for genocide supporter #1 or #2.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

If you call yourself left but then don't vote Democrat (mainly in the current times, in the past it wasn't as dire to be fair) you're either lying about being left or are too stupid to understand how our terrible political system works.

We really need to figure out how to get ranked choice voting implemented