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I wish that cis people really just had a look into how they express gender. Like, because everyone performs gender that re-affirms theirs. Cis women wear makeup to appear 'feminine', men might put on 'masculine' smelling deodorant or perfume. Like, I wish that cis people sort of looked critically at their own expression of gender and how they might deviate from it as well. I'm sure there are men out there who like baking, and there are tradeswomen, both performing tasks that are "out of the binary norm" you know?
Like, when people ask you, how'd you always know you were trans, or me with nonbinary. It's like, how did they always know they were cis. You just... know. For some it's instant, for others it takes a while.
The world is set up for people to not question anything. It's footy or netball, bbq or baking. I never fit gender stereotypes and still refuse to as a trans woman honestly. I get bullied by some trans woman about my voice and my hrt and tell them to stop being so condescending. I've always been this way I just have the right hormones now. I never thought it meant I was trans until I read that it did and tried leaning more into makeup and drag such. That gave me euphoria. My psych suggested I go on hormones, did my informed consent and to live a life I'd always dreamed about seemed incredible. But it never really meant, oh cool high heels and frocks. It meant being biologically female and to have real female emotions and to finally realy be "one of the girls" at least it does now. Now I just wear what I feel like, masc or femme according to common perceptions. But it's still pretty androgenous. People bullied me to see I needed a new style too. Fuck that, I have always worn band tshirts and such, why should I change that? I have a lot of skirts and a few super femme tops though to be fair. Make up is a pain in the butt, expensive, bad for skin and takes ages. It's good for events and of course it makes me feel special, but for everyday when I don't need to do anything about it, why waste time and money? I don't need to pass so the cis world can treat me like one of their own... That's a bit like admitting defeat.
I think some trans women dislike that because they never expressed their femininity until it was bursting out of them. People are always people though and want to tell you what to do.
Honestly, I feel ya. I love wearing band shirts and graphic tees and such, and I don't wear a lot of makeup, but I still really love wearing makeup but I 100% agree with you.
It's weird that like once you've decided on a binary gender, you must affirm to your gender or else you're not a real transes. Like, it's just so boring. I mean I say this as someone who doesn't align with one or the other gender, but it's just like, what's the point when there's so many politics and it's like ugh.
Exactly. Why pretend to fit into a society which marginalises anyway just for trying? Fuck that! We're here and we're queer and we're not buying their bullshit.