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About Matrix Matrix is an open protocol for decentralised, secure communications.

Matrix Manifesto We believe:

People should have full control over their own communication. People should not be locked into centralised communication silos, but instead be free to pick who they choose to host their communication without limiting who they can reach. The ability to converse securely and privately is a basic human right. Communication should be available to everyone as a free and open, unencumbered, standard and global network.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like Matrix but it's far from Discord right now

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's a good thing. Discord is chugging its way through the last half of the Web 2.0 service to social media pipeline. It's a VC-funded multimedia enterprise extended around a novel technology core optimized for its original service offering, real-time voice/text. Nobody is immune to bloat, but because Matrix is a protocol standard, not an app, users have the option of sticking with minimal clients and servers that won't (necessarily) get destroyed by feature creep.

If you've tried Element and thought "ah, slow Discord," maybe have a scroll through https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/. I don't want to get off topic but all my favorite software is standard/specification-based.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loved Discord back in 2015/2016. I hate it now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me and my boys have been using discord for years now to chat while we game and maybe stream what we’re doing just to each other.

Discord has added features and shit I suppose but I haven’t changed how I use it at all since I first started.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Part of the reason I hate it now is they refuse to support Linux. In fact their support in general is pretty crappy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got Discord installed on Ubuntu just fine, what doesn’t work about it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On top of what the other guy said, it just doesn't behave like a Linux app. It doesn't respect the package manager, if there's a new version but the package hasn't been updated yet, the app just refuses to launch. Like the developers literally won't even let you use the app if it's not the current version.

It's also a electron app, so it doesn't respect the window manager either. It has to have it's own special window decorations that don't match, and when I used i3 (tiling window manager) it was very difficult to get it to work normally in my setup like every other app did with no effort.

Finally, it asks for super user access! Why in the name of unholy fuck is a userland app demanding administrative powers on my computer?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Funny you say that, I actually just noticed that today. I tried launching it and it refused to let me use it until I updated. It was super annoying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean I am not a fan of discord, but it's just an Electron app, like Spotify, isn't it? meaning you can just open it in a browser you probably have running anyways

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah man so true. Matter of time before somehow we have to but loot crates to earn minutes

[–] Silkscreen 3 points 1 year ago

The good thing is that Discord is actually kinda bad when compared to Guilded and Slack. It won't be hard to catch up to Discord, since most of the features they add are fluff and not really needed.

What we need are the more robust features that Guilded has.