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I just got usage capped on GPT-4 after 20 messages -- when I clicked "Learn More" on the message, I saw:

Thanks for your interest in GPT-4!

To give every Plus user a chance to try the model, we’re currently dynamically adjusting usage caps for GPT-4 as we learn more about demand and system performance.

We're also actively exploring ways for ChatGPT Plus subscribers to use GPT-4 in a less constrained manner; this may be in the form of a new subscription level for higher-level GPT-4 usage, or something else.

Please fill out this form if you'd like to stay posted.

Now admittedly I paste massive chunks of code into GPT-4 as part of my daily workflow and it's understandable if they're wanting to make the amount users get match with the price they're paying... but I was still a little taken aback by the customer-facing bullshit of that whole "To give every Plus user a chance to try the model" and "as we learn more". Like bro if you feel like setting a limit based on use then just tell me what the limit is and how I can get more if I need it.

Anyone else run into this? Anyone have a good alternative (besides just sending it all to the platform API and paying out the ass)? GPT-4 is actually capable with code in my experience in a way that 3.5 and Copilot are not.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (11 children)

With the API I'm paying less than 10% of the subscription fee.

Just how massive are we talking about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Don't you need a subscription to use the gpt-4 API?

Last I checked, gpt-4 is 0.02 for 1000 tokens. Every message in chat also has a summary of the whole convo plus the most recent messages. I feel like that's busting the 10% pretty quickly if it's intensive daily use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You need a subscription either way

GPT-4 costs from 0.01 to 0.12 per 1000 tokens depending on some details -- but regardless of that, it's not like chat type chat where you might have tons of small messages which each depend on the full 32k or whatever of context; each singular message usually has an explicit context for the stuff you want to tell it, and no more than 50-100 of them per day to implement your thing at most, so like 50 cents to a few dollars a day even at an obscene level of usage. Might be more than $20/month in total but more likely less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You don't need any subscriptions to use the API. It's pay-as-you-go.

https://openai.com/pricing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Oh, I was meaning in terms of "you have to pay for it" -- yes, you're 100% right, you don't have to be on the $20/month thing in order to use GPT-4 on the API.

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