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Schenker says that after his years in the service industry, he has watched tipping evolve into a major part of his pay.

"If there is some means of tipping that's available to you, that should signal to you that workers there aren't being paid enough," says Schenker. "Tipping is sort of an acknowledgment of that fact."

To Schenker, customers who don't tip are not understanding that businesses treat tips as a baked-in part of workers' wages.

"They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor."

He was so close... Especially for someone who says himself does not make much money.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's crazy how some workers actually defend the tipping system and blame the consumer. They're doing the work of their oppressors and can't even realize it. The business isn't subsidizing lower prices, they're lining the pockets of their investors and telling the workers to get mad at the consumers.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find the ones that defend it are... Attractive. I've heard how some can make more in a weekend than I can in a 2 week period. None of em uggos.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or highly highly personable. But also usually both.

I was a workhorse and could solo Saturday rush for a restaurant with an hour wait, but I’d have made way more if I could flirt and bs with people when it’s slow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You ain't wrong.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find me a job where I can make more than a full day of construction or contractor labor in 4-5hrs

Spoiler alert - that job is tipped.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

General contractors in my state make about $45/hr

Wait staff get tipped, on average, $100 a day

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like you know some shitty wait staff. My daughter currently can top $130 in 4 hours at 18 in rural Ohio.

There's no general construction worker making 90k/year in Ohio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to Ziprecruiter the average annual income of General contractors in Ohio is 88k

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because you're confusing construction and contractor work, which is different work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find me a job where I can make more than a full day of construction or contractor labor in 4-5hrs

You forgot your original statement.

Also, according to Ziprecruiter construction workers make, on average, $220-$260 a day in Ohio, which is a little bit below the national average of $240-$290 a day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

$200+ per day as a server is not difficult. I regularly did that as far back as 2005.

Again you should at least speak to someone who makes a living this way before developing strong and incorrect opinions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That doesn't change the national average is $100 in tips a day.

Your opinion is statistically wrong.

And the average construction worker earned $23.92/hr in 2005 and worked 10-12 hours a day.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah my part time job is tipped and I hate it. It's a a scam for both the consumer and the worker. I just want a higher wage and not be at the whelm of ppl