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Russia's actively committing genocide and threatens nuclear war against anyone who directly intervenes, so there's that.
I agree with you though. The U.S. is just a third world country with a nice coat of paint at this point.
And in Russia, they toss people in prison for disagreeing with the state, so there's that.
They're gonna start doing that here soon, when either one camp or another takes control of state or federal governments.
Fucking Florida bans books now. 🤦
It's definitely going to be the far right who will throw people into camps if we get there. The most far left politicians in the US rarely if ever advocate targeting individual right wingers, but I can name a few far right politicians with substantial followings that suggested punishing people who disagree with them. I don't have a lot of love for democratic politicians in the US but they don't seem like a possible near term threat to people's safety, they just won't stand in the way of the people who are.
"Most far left politicians"? We don't have any real far left politicians. All we have are lefty wannbes who just care about furthering their careers within the Democratic party. We need a third party and we need it now. A party that holds true leftist values and not what the democrats claim to support. We have had enough lip service by the so called leftists in the Democratic party.
I think we've seen how far the Democrats will go down the authoritarianism path during the lockdowns, which was horrific and corrupt, but you're right, it's not nearly as bad as what the stupid fucking Republicans will do if they get their way next year.
How far did they even go? Forcing people to stay home and wear masks during a pandemic is not the same as saying you want to exile leftists(which FYI trump did say). They are not equivalent and being unaware of that is dangerous.
They forced people to accept vaccines they didn't want under pain of losing their jobs.
Which is inherently destructive and abusive to the working class.
Actually shit like that is what empowered dipshits like DeSantis and Abbott, and why Florida and Texas are so especially hard-nosed against the Democrats and left-wing culture in general.
The left doesn't want to admit that what they did was wrong, which will keep them from being able to win over enough moderates to stop the right, so I suspect the right will ultimately win and impose their horrific flavor of authoritarianism on the rest of us.
The LGBTQ+ community, women and minorities will suffer the most. Especially the kids. They're the ones I feel the worst for.
Also, let me be clear that I am not drawing any kind of equivalency; actually my point is that Democrats at their worst (which we saw the past few years) is not as bad as the Republicans at their worst is going to be, and it's partly Democrats' fault for empowering the hard right by giving them something legitimate to oppose.
While there were issues with the way things were done with vaccination, you have to understand why it even got there. We had a situation where people were unreasonably made scared of vaccines which were by every metric substantially safer for the general population than the side effects. If right wingers convinced the population that they should do 150mph in a school zone and this is fine behavior because speed limits are a conspiracy and crashing into someone else doesn't actually hurt them, how would you deal with this? I don't think there are any good answers here, but the vaccines were better than not, and you need herd immunity for things to get better. And again, forcing people who can get vaccinated to get vaccinated, with overwhelming evidence that this was safer for everyone involved, is not the same as exile or imprisonment based on political beliefs.
Please lookup the latest info where the accepted that the vaccines were not tested and Pfizer lied about the data they presented to get vaccine approval. They are all corrupt peas from the same pod. Republicans or democrats, doesn't matter. They all are only working to enhance the oligarchy.
Wut. Pfizer cominraty was well tested, all independent results since confirm the 2020 testing was accurate. The people in power were told the rate of negative side-effects. The benefit outweighed the negative; from a capital / social / utilitarian / every approach to the metric.
I question your background knowledge in the medical approval process. Your conspiracy focus' on the wrong elements
If we remove the authors of the independent results that were in one way or the other funded by Pfizer or other pharmaceutical companies, we are left we the true independent analysis from scientists whose voice was mulled by the mainstream media. The same mainstream media who for some reason had Pfizer advertisements. The negative effects of the vaccine far outweighed the benefits for people who did not have any underlying health conditions. COVID was never an issue for young healthy adults.
Who is running this bizarre metaanalysis?
Extraordinary claims. Could you provide evidence the vaccination program resulted in a net negative health outcome for the 15-35 age group?
Additionally, I like my grandma, please don't murder her through a lack of societal conviction.
Could you provide evidence that it did not? Very easy to ask for evidence when a simple Google search would show you all you need to know.
Again, as my view is supported by society, the medical, and the scientific community I do not need to provide proof. The burden of proof lies with you
Google search first two results: both in strong support of vaccination in young people
https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-recommendations-on-the-use-of-covid-19-vaccines-in-all-young-adolescents-in-australia
https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2023/03/27/assessing-the-benefits-and-risks-of-vaccinations-in-young-people/
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(23)00061-3/fulltext
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590136223000669
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22003292
Systematic review and meta-analysis of myocarditis and pericarditis in adolescents following COVID-19 BNT162b2 vaccination
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-023-00681-3
Long covid by age group
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7392393/
https://www.mdpi.com/2075-1729/12/2/285
Where's your proof from a reputable source?
Google it and you will find dozens of articles about Pfizers statement in the European parliament and then their denial after the backlash.
Google it isn't proof, but thanks.
Assange?
Criticize the US all you want, but he didn't get targeted for disagreeing with the state.
He published evidence of US war crimes and is being persecuted for it. How is that not disagreeing with the state?
Where he crossed the line was in helping Chelsea Manning to bypass security mechanisms to get access to documents she would not have otherwise had access to. Otherwise, you would have had a situation much like The New York Times and the Pentagon Papers where the US government was constrained by the First Amendment.
Russia is a terrible place as is, but the US is too.
Regarding the 3rd world country: That is totally true.