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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Amen. I've seen so many anglocentric lemmy users conflate "classical liberalism" and "neoliberalism" as liberal while such are actually functionally the opposite to the idea. Ideologies under the capitalist umbrella limit freedoms and liberties to apply only for the upper echelon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's America-specific, not anglocentric. Elsewhere doesn't do the whole "liberal means left wing" thing.

Liberal here at least generally refers to market and social liberalisation - i.e. simultaneously pro-free market and socially liberal.

The Liberal Democrats (amusingly a name that would trigger US Republicans to an extreme degree) in the UK, for example, sided with the Conservative (right wing) party, and when Labour (left/left of centre) was under its previous leader, they said they'd do the same again, because economically they're far more aligned with the Conservatives. But they also pushed for things like LGBT rights, because they're actual liberals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah I thought that was the gist of my comment but maybe I didn't clarify enough. The right-wing appropriation of a "liberal" market is the oxymoron as it creates a hierarchy where less money = less liberty