asking for sources is not always sealioning

True, but it's not very relevant to the discussion here. I'm explaining things I've personally seen on the internet, not trying to convince you of the same. You're asking for evidence for something that's several layers of abstraction from what we've been discussing. I can understand your desire for evidence of the bold claims I've made, but that's a lot of effort on my part, especially for this topic where state-level actors have an interest in covering up the pure statistical facts.

I actually don't think you have any ill intent in asking, just curiosity and healthy skepticism. It's a question of effort.

• Thread is about climate change

• Redtea suggests we should look at alternate approaches than the typical capitalist

• I question

• Redtea cites a book and makes a pro-China statement as part of his thesis

• I find his motives suspicious due to the statement

• You question my suspicion

• I explain my experience

• You ask for evidence

We're several layers deep into this right now. I could come back to it later when I have more energy and am motivated and I could spend some time finding you stuff, but it's a big ask for me to spend like an hour looking up and compiling stuff for you to give you a snapshot of what I've seen on the internet over the past 5-10 years.