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Wow, thank you so much for the very thorough answer! I've been interested in both and having the point of view of someone who has experienced both is extremely useful. I appreciate it a lot.
Try them both! Let me know if you have a different experience.
Hopefully i can grab some time to take both for a spin soon!
So I've tried them both, since you re-inspired me to do so the other day, and I have to say I'm very impressed with Zellij so far. I understand it's still an ongoing project that will need a lot of polish, but so far feels like it has a philosophy that I can actually meaningfully integrate in my workflow, especially custom layouts. I still have a lot to learn about it to have areally good idea fo how that would work out though, but I can already see myself usign it in projects I have in mind and the documentation is really thorough. ^^
Byobu, on the other hand, oof. That was not a welcoming experience. I had to read the man pages to get a decent idea about how it works in general, because the pretentious video tutorial on their website was a disaster. None of the shortcuts I tried from what they were showing did what they were supposed to do. Configuration issue, most likely, but I'm not going to dive head first into config files so I can try it out properly. That was very, very weird.
Thanks again for your insight and motivating me to give them a go!
That's good to hear!
I just tried Byobu in Konsole on Plasma 6, and it did not go well, so I can definitely see why your impression wouldn't be great.
I've not watched their videos, and originally found it really easy to work through the keyboard shortcuts, but some combination of KDE and Konsole just eats up all the key combinations. If this was my first experience, I would have bounced off immediately.
That tracks, I also happen to be on Konsole and Plasma 6! That explains things!
About the video, it's a wordless demonstration with minimal in-terminal narration and ... Mozart as the soundtrack for some reason? The whole thing along with the manpages-only doc did give me newbie-hostile, elitist vibes which were a stark contrast with zellij's "look at all the cool things I can do!", friendly approach.
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate well written manpages, goodness knows they're often written as an afterthought, but zellij's documentation is just amazing at getting you started and understand the philosophy with a super hands-on approach. Honestly, kudos to them.
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I'm more of a Vivaldi kinda gal anyway lol :V