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'Shame': Bill Including Warrantless Spying Expansion Passes Senate, Becomes Law (www.commondreams.org)

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"The Make Everyone A Spy provision will be abused, and history will know who to blame," one civil liberties advocate said.“

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There’s an edit to your last comment, I see that now. You’re really worked up about this, but please don’t use the word schizophrenic like that.

Would you like me to source an example of something happening in the past that hasn’t been legal until this past Thursday? I can’t, obviously.

Now it is possible for the government to compel (not literally at gun point, rather with the threat of jail time, like how the government compels you to do anything) a citizen working in any of several types of roles (everyone in my family does, yay) to gather information from any non-citizen.

In fact, I could be compelled to gather information on any of my German neighbors, coworkers, or customers.

I don’t think it’s likely. But it’s a law on the books and it’s fucking insane. You’ve mentioned you dislike foreign interference. Please imagine how you would feel if any Chinese citizen could be compelled to gather information for the Chinese government at any time. Would you want to hire a Chinese person?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I edited my comment to make it less polite.

That’s perplexingly crappy of you. Astounding that this conversation hasn’t been as effective as you’d like. If you had asked me for a source before the edit, when I read it or pinged me, you would have gotten one earlier, though it’s the same source as you received elsewhere.

You should read the law.

https://cpj.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Senate-RISAA-Letter-Sign-on-Letter-to-Senate-Opposing-RISAA_4.16.2024.pdf

This “Everyone Is A Spy” Provision fundamentally transforms the nature of surveillance in this country by requiring American businesses and individuals that have no role in providing communications services to assist with NSA surveillance. The measure is tailor-made for aggressive misuse, which is why Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) described it as “one of the most dramatic and terrifying expansions of government surveillance authority in history.” This dangerous approach is precisely what Congress rejected in 2008 when it replaced the highly fraught Protect America Act with Section 702.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re intentionally being ruder because things aren’t going your way (your first comment was frankly also rude, plus didn’t ask for a source, so why would I give you one). You can decide that’s not crappy because you’re frustrated, but the rest of us can’t know your mental state. Lashing out because you don’t think you’ll get what you want isn’t behavior that most people find enjoyable.

It’s the same source you already received in another comment. Maybe you’ll read it this time.