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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I literally have like 1TB of video stored on YouTube and privatized. Google is making $0 from my videos, but they still have to store them and have them available if I want to watch it (it's all of my Twitch VODs). Meanwhile websites like Streamable perma-delete my 5MB video after it gets 0 views in 2 milliseconds.

YouTube is a behemoth that will not be replaced.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean you're right that YouTube isn't going anywhere, but they're going to either delete that data or start charging you for it at some point

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm shocked they haven't already. A good 95% of YouTube could be deleted and no one would notice, and would save Google millions and millions of dollars.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they did that, I wouldn't be able to find a fix for the fuel line getting kinked in my BG86 leaf blower. You know that video with 48 views that exactly solves the problem I am having? Same applies across basically every niche device or mechanical issue and is one of the primary reasons I find myself on youtube.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair point! However, your argument is almost more reason for Google to do it.

You find yourself on YouTube for those niche videos, which means you're the kind of customer YouTube would benefit from getting rid of. A few dozen views from you per year to find niche videos, is not paying them anything, and is wasting a ton of storage. They want people who spend hours upon hours on YouTube per day, essentially replacing TV. Those who spend hours and hours on YouTube, are also generally watching popular videos, or videos that YouTube is recommending, which means a ton of ad views, or even YouTube Premium subscriptions.

I would absolutely be crushed if YouTube deleted all those random niche videos because I just used one last week to fix my car. Some random ass video showing a potential ground wire issue. I am not saying I want Google to do it, I don't, but I am definitely shocked they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don't fall into the trap of feeling sympathy for the likes of google.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I pay for premium because I rely on those videos way more than I'm comfortable with.

Finding how to fix a screen issue in my niche 2014 laptop in 2022 was a wild experience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes i feel bad for YouTube. Video hosting is the worst of both worlds (heaviest storage and highest bandwidth) and there's a LOT of video on YouTube, most of it worthless.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and they keep the original file as well as their converted file. So every video you upload is stored at least twice. Technically more, because popular videos are stored on multiple servers to ensure fast load times no matter where you live. It's crazy. I would love to see a behind the scenes your of YouTube, and a live stat counter page. It would seem fake.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They are starting to delete the data associated to Google accounts that have not signed in in several years. This includes their YouTube videos. I have started downloading the videos from creators that have passed that I still wish to watch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's interesting. My girlfriends old cat videos from over a decade ago are still there. She hasn't logged into the account for years and years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dread the day TotalBiscuit is but a memory (RIP)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What happens to videos of people who are no longer alive? Does Google expect a channel to be maintained in perpetuity?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't count on that and I'd definitely recommend backups. I had a channel full of videos just disappear and I never found out what happened. I just went to check something one day and it was gone. The videos are all gone. Nobody could help I eventually just had to suck it up. From what I read at the time it happens here and there but not to people big enough for there to ever be a stink about it. Someone said it happens if you don't log on for long enough but I logged in every few months at least for various reasons so I dunno.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I don't. I just move them there because Twitch deletes them after a few days. I don't care about them, it's just an easy 1 click button to save them on YouTube.

In fact I stopped relying on Google services when they banned the Terraria developers Google account and the only way he got it back was by canceling the Stadia release of Terraria.

Since that day, I switched to ProtonMail with a custom domain, immich.app, proton calendar, and more.

Realized that unless I have to power to potentially cost Google millions of dollars, Google won't even look my way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's right. You are simply in better hands if you actually pay for a service. If google offers you something for free, they do not really owe you anything, you are not entitled to that service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I priced it out recently and protonmail is more expensive than paying for Google business email and extra space. I thought about switching but I can't think of a way it will significantly make my life better. I'd rather pay some money so hopefully I'm not the product anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep I have a scheduled task that uploads terabytes worth of empty/noise videos up on to YouTube to take up their hosting space as a final hurrah/middle finger to those corporate fat cats/silicon valley pundits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Someone mentioned youtube was sending notices to people with private videos, about removing them or making public