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The Guardian obtained a copy of Noem’s soon-to-be released book, “No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward.” In it, she tells the story of the ill-fated Cricket, a 14-month-old wirehaired pointer she was training for pheasant hunting.

On the way home from the hunting trip, Noem writes that she stopped to talk to a family. Cricket got out of Noem’s truck and attacked and killed some of the family’s chickens, then bit the governor.

“At that moment,” Noem writes, “I realized I had to put her down.” She led Cricket to a gravel pit and killed her.

She writes, according to the Guardian, that the tale was included to show her willingness to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it has to be done. But backlash was swift against the Republican governor, who just a month ago drew attention and criticism for posting an infomercial-like video about cosmetic dental surgery she received out-of-state.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I grew up in the country, raised chickens with my folks, so I get that farm dogs are different than indoor pets, I've had to put down a few dogs in my day due to old yeller situations but I've never put a dog down for being a shitty dog trainer, something that Republicans seem to really love bragging about.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The point is to show she can intentionally and decisively be cruel and mean, especially to an animal under her custody. This is seen as a desirable character trait to Trump's followers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The point is to show she can intentionally and decisively be cruel and mean, especially to an animal under her custody.

Combine that with Trump labeling groups he doesn't like as a bunch of animals and it gets even scarier to think that they might join forces.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean SS troops had to kill the dog that they raised as a puppy through their entire training to prove their dedication to Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you’re thinking of Game of Thrones and the Unsullied. 😂

(In all seriousness I know this is an urban legend told about many different military organizations around the world. I don’t know if there’s any truth to it.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words 'dog', 'puppy' ,or 'pet' are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.

Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.

While "SS-Troops" (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.

If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It's in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is there a source for this? Not disagreeing, I e just never heard this before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That’s because it never happened. If it had you’d definitely have heard about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By that logic Ea-Nasir didnt sell high quality copper until the rediscovery of his tablets. Obscurity doesnt equal it didnt happen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You’re comparing apples to Nazis.

ELI5 for the intellectually challenged downvoting this:

Apple: Ea-nāṣir - one random dude c. 1750 BCE.

Nazis: The OG Nazis 1933 - 1945 that murdered millions of people.

The comparison is incredibly stupid. You might just as well liken a speck of dust to a planet.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Some of us have heard about it.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/03/evil-in-the-making/#:~:text=DE%20SWAAN%3A%20For%20example%2C%20they,was%20necessary%20for%20the%20Volk.

(Link from a few comments above)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Initial answer when the comment had nos source: Source: Trust me bro.

The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words 'dog', 'puppy' ,or 'pet' are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.

Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.

While "SS-Troops" (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.

If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It's in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Source: Harvard.edu

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/03/evil-in-the-making/#:~:text=DE%20SWAAN%3A%20For%20example%2C%20they,was%20necessary%20for%20the%20Volk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words 'dog', 'puppy' ,or 'pet' are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.

Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.

While "SS-Troops" (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.

If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It's in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The linked interview has one(!) offhand comment by Abram de Swaan about the alleged practise. The interview is in part to promote his book “The Killing Compartments: The Mentality of Mass Murder.” which of course features Nazi Germany quite a bit. So I went ahead and downloaded said book. The words 'dog', 'puppy' ,or 'pet' are mentioned zero times in the entirety of the book.

Trying to find the book and more sources for the allegation I came up with nothing else.

While "SS-Troops" (idiotic generalisation in this case) like the SS-Totenkopfverbände did many fucked up thinks and would be fucked up enough to feature the alleged dog killings in their training - there is so far no proof whatsoever.

If this were the case it would be in every other movie about WW2. It's in Kingsmen FFS, where the good guys do this as part of their training.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

She tells it like it is. Unfortunately, because of people like her, she's not totally wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

This. Dogs do aggressive things when they are stressed. Maybe the dog acted out due to all the beatings from the governor.