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D.C. judges are "fed up" with "Trump's maneuvers and sensitive to need to move quickly," ex-prosecutor says

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you look at the totality of evidence including pressuring state officials to overturn their elections, pressuring Pence to exceed his authority, the fake elector scheme, conspiring with proud boys and oath keepers to invade the capital, and much else it would be impossible for any reasonable person to have a doubt that trump knew what he was doing and would have done even worse if those in his immediate orbit hadn't stopped him.

His secret service detail had to ignore his direct orders to drive him to the Capitol building in Jan 6 for God's sake. Can you imagine if they hadn't?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I understand all that and don't disagree with it. It's just my impression of our legal system that you have to prove the defendant actually did the specific thing you're charging them with, and I think Trump has been smart enough to walk just up to the line, but refrain from putting his toe on it. No matter how obvious it is that he wanted what happened on J6 to occur, the prosecution would have to prove he actually had a hand in making it happen. And not just indirectly, but directly. It sucks, but this is how corrupt CEOs get away with illegal shit all the fucking time: they make sure there's no actual evidence they had a direct hand in their crimes. Trump is very good at this. He uses his rhetoric to make tongue-in-cheek gestures that his radical supporters understand as orders, but which aren't explicitly orders. My admittedly non-expert understanding of our legal system is that this makes convicting him very difficult.

Now, the Georgia case is much more watertight, from what I can tell, and I really hope they nail him to the wall with that one. I just don't think the evidence is quite there for J6. Which is too bad. I'd love to see him go to prison over that. But I don't think he will.