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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

During exit interview:

  • Why are you leaving?
  • Can't pay the rent, the salary is shit.
  • Ping-pong table it is!
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There comes a point where you, as an employee, are making enough money that how the work makes you feel starts to matter more than a 1-4% pay bump.

You’d need to be making pretty good money already though…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Even a 20% pay bump doesn’t get an employee that likes their current job if they’re already near $100k (and not in NYC or similar cost).

Under no circumstances though is the problem a ping pong table.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Money never motivates, however a lack of it will certainly demotivate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

A ping-pong table

Fucking… what. Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Before long, one of the paddles will broken, the net will be missing, and/or all of the balls will have been lost. Management will never address any of these issues. The table will be useless, except to serve as an excuse for management not to even try to address morale problems.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I want a ping-pong table in every office!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm always curious who things like the ping pong table are for. I've never been in a situation at work where a couple people got up from their desks and said hey let's go play some ping pong! And management was like Yeah you guys go play, have fun, that's what it's there for!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@WarmSoda Had a foosball table at one place. Lots of use, so much that people came in on Saturdays to finish their work. Never used it, had my work done by early Friday morning every week. Manager didn't give me a good review because I didn't come in on Saturdays. I took it right to HR, and he had to go to managers training. I left shortly afterward.

@BrooklynMan

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

i LiKe PiZza

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Me when I’m stopping doing the labor I do in exchange for money because they don’t have a ping pong table at the labor factory

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So why did you leave

No ping pong table 😢

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My previous job didn’t have a ping pong table.

Needless to say, I am no longer employed there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is an interesting one, because I think it applies pretty well to many well paid, salaried corporate jobs, but not at all to lower paying job or positions where people don’t have many other options available. Not to say they need a ping pong table, but that many aren’t leaving because of pay but rather bad managers or better perks/benefits elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, the ping pong table being the correct answer is absolutely moronic but the explanation of the pay option is not inaccurate. I work with this data all the time and while pay is big, it's not the biggest reason, or even the reason for a majority. But again, it is certainly not behind "lack of ping pong table" as a reason people leave...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can see other factors being important too. The ridiculous thing here is saying that it’s often not about money when it’s literally never about a ping pong table

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is so outrageous that it feels like satire.

Please tell me it’s satire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think of the last job you quit. Would a 5% raise change anything?

A ping pong table is an asinine thing to give, but the point of "more money doesn't make you stay" has been proven by many studies.

When you quit a job because it doesn't pay enough it's not a matter of a small raise, it's a normally a big jump in pay. Until you get to substantial raises, like 10-20k a year, you aren't really worried about the pay as much as your direct supervisor and the work load. A bump from 60k a year to 61k a year won't make you stay in a job you hate. 60k to 100k might, but that's not just a raise, that's a different class of pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First, there’s no mention of size of pay adjustment here. Second, sure, your point is valid, but in the context of this post, let’s not be ridiculous. This is a multiple-choice question, so sometimes you need to rank options and choose the best. No same person is more likely to stay at a company because of a ping-pong table in lieu of a better salary. Now if they’d said

An employee appreciation program, which includes such things as free meals and a recreation room with a ping pong table

that would be a different story. But as-is, it’s ridiculous.