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Just a little rant. When I first visited Lemmy Sites a couple of months ago it felt empty. Besides the really mainstream community pretty much everything else just felt empty.

Meanwhile though traffic has increased a lot and I feel well entertained by the traffic in c/hfy c/noncredibledefence c/keepwriting c/worldbuilding and so on. It is certainly less than Reddit but often quality is substancially higher and is "enough" to keep me entertained.

Also I like that you can actually post something without running into a bazillion deletes, bans and moderator shitshat because your post was two words to short, not NCD enough and so on.

Sure, the C64 community on Lemmy is laughable. So is the ARMA community. I still use REddit for that. Also I often check up stuff on r/hfy and r/NCD but since one week I have been prefering Lemmy for that.

Also my longer posts don't get eaten up any more. God, three weeks ago most posts with 3k an more just got lost without feed back. Nowadays I have even manges posts around 20k without breaking them up. Though the editor is still lacking for longer posts. On Reddit I can copy-paste pretty much anything from Libreoffice into Reddits Editor (which is also pretty lacking but differently lacking). On Lemmy I have to run most text through a little perl script to get them even using correct line breaks perl -pe 's/\n/\n\n/' and different sizes for Headlines are much to few to select from.

Not perfect, not even very good but definitely promising.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Slowly? Lemmy is easily as entertaining as Reddit and it is just getting going.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think people really understand that reddit is an 18 year old product. Their original site was iterated on for 10 years before they stopped building on it.

Lemmy will get there and beyond. As the fediverse attracts more users, it will also attract more contributors. I'm starting to learn Rust myself in hopes I can contribute to the project at some point down the line.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah Reddit 10 years ago was very different than Reddit now. Too many people expect a 1 for 1 replacement right now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was on reddit before the digg exodus, and the current state of lemmy feels somewhat reminiscent of those times. When communities are smaller there is just a completely different feel than the 1 million+ subscriber goliaths some subreddits became.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly what it feels like. It's so refreshing and I like the fact I can scroll for about 30 mins, exhaust my feed and step away. I don't get sucked in for most of the day like Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I completely agree. I’ve been hopping on in the morning and in the evening and I don’t feel like I’ve missed anything and I still feel like I’m contributing. The complete opposite of how it was with Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was the best era. The source code was open sourced, subreddits members know each other pretty well, the most prolific reditors are not reposters or super-mods. Actually fun AMAs and community-initiated events (meetups, secret santa, etc). Now it's all gone, replaced by a TikTok clone.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Lol yeah, you guy's should have been here 2y ago, this place is jumping now!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I certainly hate the people here a lot less. I like how it isn't the same garbage comments on every post where they hyper analyze videos frame by frame just to call things fake.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its getting there, and there is some entertaining content on here (comments and posts). But I think we are still missing the super high end responses. No matter what the topic, one or two people would jump on and have deep specialised knowledge of the field - be it naming an insect from a blurry image or commenting on a geopolitical situation. I still see lots of posts that generate nothing more than “huh” or “wow” type comments.

When that starts appearing more broadly, I think the quality here is going to take another leap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think that'll only really start to happen once you start getting more of the general population on here.

Reddit always had a reputation for being dominated by techy people, that is significantly more so the case here.

Signing up for Lemmy, even knowing where to start is a bigger leap than it is over there. Personally I'm hoping third party apps will be able to help with that by offering some kind of setup wizard with easy options of suggested instances to join.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have way more fun on Lemmy. I do need some of the more esoteric an vast archived content from reddit from time to time. For that I just google reddit and no longer sign in. Fedi will get there soon enough though.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I don't understand the "slowly" part at all. I joined Lemmy about a month ago when Reddit third party apps went dark. Lemmy was largely a ghost town then, with most of the relatively mainstream communities I sought out having newest posts that were days or even weeks old. That desolation was gone after the first few days, with a ton more engagement from others who migrated over and a steady stream of new content. The communities I frequent have grown by leaps and bounds since then. "Slow" isn't a word I'd use to describe Lemmy's growth at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, Lemmy is more active than tildes at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tildes is staying the same. And I like it that way. Lemmy is getting busy and I also like it that way. I go to tildes or lemmy depending on my mood. Haha

I totally forgot about squabbles. I haven't gone there for weeks now. I don't know the reason why, I'm just being pulled to lemmy and tildes much more.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stopped posting to Reddit because frankly it felt like throwing a pebble into the ocean.

I love the smaller approach here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My posts will get no engagement, negative engagement, and very rarely do I get upvotes. Here in lemmy, there's lots of quality posts and nice people who engage with my posts.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy just needs to stop talking about itself so much. The only reason I still use Reddit is because I find fresher and more varied content there. Lemmy users need to provide more content than just the fact that they are on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The best thing people who want Lemmy to succeed can do is post original, non-meta content to communities.

Of course [email protected] is inherently meta.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not to sound like a jerk but I don't understand what most people expected. All new sites start slow. Facebook was slow at the beginning. Reddit too. It's not like they had millions of users and subs day one. We have the responsibility to build up this community. We want a site like Reddit but without the u/spez crap. So we better start building it up and complain less. Criticism is ok but saying "it's slower than Reddit" is kinda useless and obvious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit got a burst of users when digg did stupid shit. Now Reddit's doing stupid shit and...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Reddit's burst of users from digg though was on top of an established site with a reasonable userbase. How many people were using lemmy before spez decided that Twitter was a role model instead of a cautionary tale?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit was also like Lemmy is now when it first started.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is the new way of life. Reddit is the toxic ex.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I fucking love you back! ❤

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

❤❤❤❤❤

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Lot of empty communities still. Thinking about posting in writingprompts to try to get something rolling there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy feels a lot like hackernews

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More fun here in my opinion. The HN discussions are very dry.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I'm regularly seeing hundreds of comments on posts now and only a month ago it was rare to see a dozen comments on a post. I really don't need more engagement on a post, that's plenty. Lemmy still needs more users to sustain more niche communities, but in the places that people are it's already great.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

As of this last month, Lemmy is my new “go to” for scrolling social media. My Reddit usage is probably 20% or less of what it used to be.

A part of this was Voyager’s Progressive Web App (https://vger.app), it made me feel right at home after Apollo shut down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Slowly? Bro for years reddit was mostly pictures of delicious sandwiches.

Lemmy is orders of magnitude better than old reddit.

Reddits deaddit, it just doesn't know it yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

anyone remember the "melts vs grilled cheese" drama lol

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm hating all the Reddit spillover commenters that take the internet way too fucking seriously. They were easily the worst part of Reddit.

When I first seeked asylum here, people were being sarcastic in the comments and everyone knew, dark humour was being pushed, and there were no Well Actually Guys around. Now there's a big uptick in petty "discussions", know-it-alls, and those losers that break your comment up gaslit straw man style, to just put words in your mouth to try make you look like an asshole.

I'm hating all the Reddit spillover commenters that take the internet way too fucking seriously.

Says the person ranting about Reddit users destroying Lemmy. Maybe you're part of your own problem.

They were easily the worst part of Reddit.

That would be /u/spez, but okay, bro.

When I first seeked asylum here, people were being sarcastic in the comments and everyone knew, dark humour was being pushed, and there were no Well Actually Guys around.

First of all, it's not your internet. Not everyone is as "intelligent" as you think you are and sarcasm is actually hard to detect in text.

Second of all, not everyone appreciates dark humour because it can be very.offensive, just like using derogatory terms like "Well Actually Guy". If you want people on Lemmy, you need to make it a safe space for all.

Also, your account is only 5 weeks old.

Now there's a big uptick in petty "discussions"

So, now you're just anti-discourse? How is Lemmy meant to grow if comment section are empty, you bigot?

know-it-alls

Again, derogatory.

and those losers that break your comment up gaslit straw man style, to just put words in your mouth to try make you look like an asshole.

Oh, shit.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i disagree. Lemmy is quickly getting better.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

haha it's funny i felt the opposite - when i got here at the beginning of the 'exodus' i already felt like Lemmy was a small but thriving little community that i enjoyed much more than reddit.

not sure why some want it to be just like reddit but the fediverse. i don't and i'm glad it's a smaller bunch of people and hope it stays that way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what will be even better. One instance for all communities. So everyone knows and subscribes to the same community.

Or if someone can come up with a better idea so that everyone doesn't depend on one instance.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like I'm stuck between two times periods.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I have to disagree about Lemmy not being very good. It is, IMHO, already very good indeed. It will only improve with time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't went back to reddit since july 3rd... Not even once! I like Lemmy the way it is because I don't scroll for hours anymore and I like that.

Although I wish the comment section was a little more active in general.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To me it feels like reddit 10/12 years ago when still was pretty niche and a meme could take the entire plataform for a week, tne Atheist memes are also a blast to the last.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for making me aware of c/worldbuilding! It's nice to see more niche communities growing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well, a couple months ago there were nice reddit apps. If it weren't for that, lemmy would probably still be a ghost town. Now that being said, I'm happy I'm here and will continue to contribute and I'm so happy that I was able to get the username I did!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss the sheer amount of cute and stupid cats I used to see on Reddit. That and country specific communities.

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