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I signed up for Lemmy.world, because not having downvotes is stupid and leads to a shitty community.
Ironic that three people downvoted this. But I agree, a "no downvotes" rule is designed to avoid disagreement and conflict, which is impossible on a public forum without extremely restricted expression. If the point is to be always be nice, why not disable open commenting and make users select their replies from a list of canned positive comments. 100% safety and positivity.
I'm torn on the whole no downvote button thing (I missed that when I signed up), but you can be still nice while having a discussion and disagreeing with people.
I would argue that the downvote button can lead to exactly what you are describing though, no disagreement or conflict.
Someone posts a unpopular opinion, a bunch of users downvote it to hell and poof!, no discussion or exchange of ideas. Just out of mind, out of sight.
Wait. Some instances disabled downvoting?
Yes, beehaw one of them.
Maybe when they were a bunch of users it might have been a good idea to prevent brigading, but imho now that there is 1000x user activity it's needed. I already saw the first spambots posting spam for meds....
I like lemmy.world so far - relatively neutral admins, no weird stuff like disabling downvotes, you can create communities and post nsfw!
And the only blocked instance is full of pedos and nazis, so kudos for lemmy.world!
All I put was "I like bees and to yeehaw proudly". Its probably just a way to filter out bot accounts.
Ok now I'm embarrassed about how strongly I pitched myself to get on lemmy.ml. I was like overcaffeinated on the first five minutes of a blind date!
You mean I didn't have to type out the entire script to Bee Movie?
I think things have tightened up a lot over there in the last 5 or so days. I don't even remember what I put (definitely nothing more substantial than yours) and I have an account over there of similar to age. People who have tried to sign up more recently have mentioned being rejected after multiple serious looking responses.
I signed up to lemmy world because I thought it was Lemmy's World which sounds like Wayne's World. I like Wayne's World.
Party time!
Excellent!
I'm here because I didn't know what I was doing when I signed up.
A more serious reply than my last comment β I've been on the fediverse for over 5 years, and on "Twitter-like" instances (GNU Social/Pleroma/Mastodon) there are some communities that either over-police language and have an extremely restrictive CoC, or the absolutely opposite with quite literal nazis spewing nonsense. I just wanted to make sure I found a chill Lemmy server full of mostly regular folk, and lemmy.world seems to fit that description.
Also because because beehaw has sownvotes disabled. Imo downvotes are an integral part of the Lemmy experience. As it is for reddit.
The issue lies with what downvotes really mean. We've all seen instances on Reddit where where downvoted to hell because it was an idea contrary to the majority of the sub/echo chamber even though they were totally valid.
Working as intended then. Because in general most instance admins just care that you've put in at least a little effort to answer their questions, which in their eye makes it less likely that you're a spammer or troll.
I didnβt know there are major differences between the instances (like the voting system). Iβm basically here because the join-page suggested lemmy.world π€·π»ββοΈ. But I like it here :). Still havenβt fully understood how these instances work or work not together but I like that you donβt need accounts everywhere you want to post something. Is there a single server that handles user authentication or how do other instances know my account? π§
Yeah. Each instance is able to run their local communities how they want. Basically each instance is itβs own thing with its own rules and subs (communities). You can join that instance by creating an account there and your settings, saves etc will be maintained there.
You canβt use that login to log onto another instance, but your posts and any communities on that instance are shared with other instances so people on other instances can see your posts. The other instances donβt know about you directly, but since your instance name is there in your account name e.g. [email protected], an instance knows it can go ask lemmy.world about MoonKitten to get information.
tldr; accounts only work on the instance you signed up on, but instances talk to each other and exchange posts, user info etc.
Ah, so Iβm basically posting into foreign communities through my home-instance :).
I spent 2 days trying to get my reverse proxy running with my own server just so I didn't have to write 2 sentences lol
Wow. I didn't realize beehaw has over 380 instances blocked! Now I feel like I'm missing out on the Lemmy fediverse.
I don't think you're missing out on much. Most aren't even lemmy instances.
I received this reply about this from Alyaza:
this is because we started using a heavily curated blocklist for the worst mastodon instances (they can interoperate with us). we didnβt expect any trouble from any of them, but any instance in the new batch of banned instances can be safely assumed to be quite bad and itβs better to be proactive than not.
link https://beehaw.org/comment/176651
edit:
checking into a few of the listed blocks now... most of them don't seem to be operating anymore.
I wrote 1 sentence and was accepted.
TIL people think 1 sentence constitutes an essay.
LMAO, felt this.
The last time I had to write a Statement of Intent was to get into grad school and I sure as shit ain't doing homework for a free online community.
Yeah I originally created an account at beehaw.org before coming over to lemmy.world. The main reason I moved was because I wasn't a fan of the fact I couldn't freely create new communities over there (and I don't think you can create communities on other instances?), but also just ~vibes~.
To be fair, this is actually kinda great to see - it's one of the strengths of this federated system. The folks that run these instances are being pretty generous already to just let us talk and share whatever the heck we want, and it's perfectly reasonable for a host to want to be selective about who they let use their resources.
I have accounts on a few different communities. Mostly because there is no real way to know how the community is until you start interacting with it and it starts interacting with with other communities.
Beehaw is nice because they are actually trying to cultivate a friendly community and moderate a lot of the trash out. But also... sometimes you dont want that hand holding...
I signed up for beehaw initially, got in, but wasn't a fan of some of their rules and how they police speech in their community.
All good, I can still view and participate in their comments, but Lemmy.world had more of the vibe i was looking for
I wrote like 2 lines and got accepted immediately, you don't need to write an essay
You don't have to write an essay. I literally just wrote "because I'm leaving reddit" and got in a couple days later. Makes sense that approval times may be longer with more people leaving. But, I agree it is a bit much. I use Lemmy.world too just because I didn't want to initially wait a couple days to be approved.
I'm here cause i was completely ignorant of lemmy and it just so happened to be the link I came across on reddit at the moment I decided to give it a try. I been enjoying my stay so far.
I went through the application process on Beehaw and they never got back to me, so it seems the answers I wrote weren't satisfactory.
That's okay.
I'm fine right here.
*ChatGPT intensifies*
I started in lemmy.ml
Applied to beehaw, deleted my account, then joined again lol
But I think Iβll stay in lemmy.world.
I never know what I "can contribute". However I have Opinions That Must Be Heard. That's probably sufficient.
Regardless, lemmy.world rocks.
Beehaw seems like a fun community but their admin likes censorship and their instance doesn't support free speech. I'm hoping we can build something comparable to @[email protected] on the free side on Lemmy.
When you live in a country that has domestic terrorists trying to hide behind the First Amendment, sometimes moderation is essential.
I did the essay for a couple of the popular instances and still didn't get approved
Thank god for lemmy.fmhy.ml
I hopped over from Mastodon.world Ruud does a great job with that one so made sense to join his lemmy instance
Those of us who did write an essay still haven't heard anything back yet, so don't feel like you're missing anything for being lazy.
I picked lemmy.one at random. Somewhat reduced features for some reason, but otherwise functional. I'm not really clear on what the advantages and disadvantages of any give instance might be.
