Google taught me it's OK to be evil : memes

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.

I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.

Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.

Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.

Oh Google.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That's the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.

Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I live Valve, but there's always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn't help

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dolphin isn't really their fault though. That all comes down to the developers and Nintendo. The outcome sucks either way

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being good is good for growth, but investors eventually want that payout.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Google also had, realistically, no competition in the online ads business for most of that time. Microsoft tried so hard but never broke into that market. No other online ad company could even come close to google 2000-2010 in terms of scale, technical chops, etc.

It’s easy to have principals, it’s hard to live up to them. The first real competitor to Google’s online ads dominance was Facebook and has caused Google to completely shit the bed (from practices and policy, they’re obviously doing well money wise)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

'You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.

We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.

Now it all sucks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Google didn't have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

you can use invidious or piped on PC and newpipe on a phone. just be careful cause i heard google removed newpipe from the playstore and someone put something malicious with the same name, but im not sure how that situation is going

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I use the NewPipe fork with Sponsorblock as an optional feature. You can get NewPipe on F-Droid here and the fork with Sponsorblock here.

As a rule of thumb, I always check their respective GitHub pages for links, I don't really trust the Google Store. There are too many spam duplicates of various apps, especially FOSS ones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You can still get NewPipe on F-Droid.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Someone's underestimating the age of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but...ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren't "raised" online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid's school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn't needed a pencil and paper in...I forgot how long.

If you're around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. But what does it mean to be raised online? I think for that you need the availability of ever present internet connections in the form of mobile devices. I think the first kids raised online would have been born in 2003, and would have been 4, preschool age, in 2007 when the iPhone came out. Those kids are 16 now. If we want to set the standard for "raised online" as being "digital native" then I think we should dial back the range to when AIM was popular. Again, setting the standard for who could have been raised with that constant interconnectedness as being someone who was 4 at time of introduction would give us the first AIM connected people reaching age 30 right now.

The reality is, I think, in the middle. The first generation we could say was raised online is basically right in between those two ages, 23. The other standard we could try to set is, who is the first generation who doesn't remember the internet as exciting, just instead a daily part of life

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jesus what was the original version of this?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Gotchu fam!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Youtube taught you to be yourself? The site where basically everyone fakes a striking and cheerful personality because of how difficult it is to build an audience if you don't?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, old YouTube wasn't always like this, and the picture has all old logos in it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's clear the original was made before all those sites enshittified into their current forms. That's why it mentions Vine instead of TikTok, which is notable for having been enshittified from day 1.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The sweet release of death cannot come soon enough

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I found a Reddit link to an original

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

One of these things is not like the other...

DeviantArt really caught me off guard... lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which generation? Im 36 and i was definitely raised online.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need to log into my old deviantArt account again. Those were fun times.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don't bother. Everything has a watermark on it now.

[–] xerazal 14 points 1 year ago (18 children)

This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a "brand".

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vine taught me your worthless unless you're making someone else money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like it prepared you for the world economy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It hurts because it's true... ;_;

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Let vine rest easy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

One of these things is not like the others.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are so quick to forget. Back when Netflix came out it's appeal was offering movies for viewing online. People scoffed at it because TV was king and Netflix wasn't on TV yet, smart TVs weren't a thing and Roku had to be built as a middleman. "Why would I pay for that". No one believed in the products in the way that people believe in Netflix and YouTube or Google or even twitter today.

Today every tv is smart, YouTube has a YouTube TV app, all these media companies have their own apps like paramount and ESPN, and people are willing to pay.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i cannot escape YouTube at all for sure and i do want to use instagram sometimes + GIB VINE

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Use YouTube.com in firefox with u-block origin. Works well enough while not giving them ad revenue.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who tf uses DA for furry porn? There are way better websites nowadays

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Lemmy is great but the majority of you guys have a, r/notlikeothergirls vibe.

Like you know something about the world and by saying, "I am not mainstream I am alternative," you are making yourselves inclusive in some way. You don't know anything the rest of the world doesn't already have some idea about. Some sort of secret knowledge. I think my favorite thing I have seen on here is people thinking they are private and secure on the Fediverse. Despite the fact you are on a self hosted instance of someone's hardware and handing your privacy and security to someone random or an entity at random.

Being inclusive is not how you educate people. It's how you isolate your knowledge and make people think you are a jerk.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy attracts this FOSS/linux/firefox/self-hosted or die mentality because the biggest jump in Lemmy users came from a corporation messing with a product they liked

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Which is good.

Without "die hard" FOSS people we wouldn't have Lemmy, Linux, Apache, Firefox etc etc etc. I mean, dont shit where you eat I guess I what I want to say.

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