Yeah, but in federated social media you can just pack up and set up a new instance.
You won't ever need to leave the whole thing behind to disconnect from corporate BS.
this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2023
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My concerns the product advertisers attempting to sneak in, bragging or something. It felt rampant on Reddit, so itβs probably left me wary. π£
And if that happens, you can bet your ass there will one day be instance-wide ad-block that auto-blocks users/instances known for posting ads.
If that becomes a thing, there will be instances that explicitly filter it out.
The problem is its hard to tell what's an ad and what's not. Sometimes people ARE just enthusiastic about a product they found and want to share it.
It's easier when it's a large company like Burger King or something; like most people won't just suddenly start raving about this great new burger place they found called Burger King. It's different for more obscure companies. It could be actual Lemmy users who are just passionate or it could be company employees trying to sneak advertisements into site discussions.
I don't think there's any AI or other tools that could distinguish the two.
I am one of these people, am a dope smoker and recently got into related Lemmy communities. There's a lot of equipment that you dont hear about until through word of mouth so when I find something I LOVE through word of mouth like the arizer air max or brilliant cut grinder I do my part to scream their praises from the heavens so other smokers have a chance to hear about them.
Oh nice, what communities would you recommend? I'm already in [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
[email protected] is an excellent community you may want to check into :)
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Double edge sword. "This guy is shilling" reports go rampant .
Hopefully, the Reddit bot trackers peeps will move to lemmy, and lend us their wisdom.
I learnt so many ways realise a poster or commenter was a bit from those peeps. Amazing MVPs!
And folks like kitboga taught me that spammers/scammers generally stick to a script.
It's gonna be an arms race! Hopefully we win!
Yo I also worry about advertisers attempting to target me with localised advertisements, which is why I use Borg VPN! Nice try, advertisers, but those "hot milfs" are nowhere near me, ha!
/parody
That's why I started my own instance, I got the freedom to pick and choose what instances I allow, so if any corporation decides to join the fediverse I don't have to wait for the admin to defedederate.
Just make sure if you're using it as a personal instance to make it so no one but the admin can make communities and restrict your sign ups so your instance can't get taken over by nutjobs.
I wouldn't mind some of the "normies" joining. I'm a programmer too, and while the programmer/Linux jokes get a little bit of a chuckle out of me I wouldn't mind some other stuff.
Amen
I felt kinda bad for the people who were here when I joined two months ago. They had their own little community which would get quickly overrun by ex redditors. I wasn't sure if I was a refugee or a colonizer.
If those people want their own isolated communities, those exist elsewhere. You join the fediverse because you expect it to grow and network.
I feel like it's like discovering a hidden place at a lake that's really beautiful. You can't really claim it as exclusively your's but would still very much prefer it if no one else went there, as selfish as that might be
To be fair they could create a server and just not Federate with anyone? Or federate selectively?
Being a colonizer or a migrant is up to you π
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Can we stop the gatekeeping and that normie bs, plz ffs
The gatekeeping is especially ironic because they didn't use this meme template properly, lol. You know, like a "normie".
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Corporations are coming, it's inevitable, but at least this time we won't have to deplatform ourselves to have a sensible discussion.
Someone will try and justify corporate investments. And once they get in, they will infest. They ALWAYS play the long game.
I agree that they will deliberately try to infiltrate, but corporations are notorious for never playing the long game.
That is why lemmy is decentralized, no one can buy every single instance. and even when a corporation buys the codebase of lemmy, another person can come in and create their own platform that is still compatible
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Great. Now I'm worried I'm a normie and not the "Manifest Destiny" nerd I have been trying to be.
/s
Seriously though, from the comments, it's seems like the corporate rats gaining ground in places that are federated is going to be a lot harder, and more user resilient.
I read a comment earlier somewhere that at least they hadnβt seen anyone use /s yet.
....yet.
As soon as a space is big and diverse enough that you stop recognising usernames or even instances, you've got to signal intent. It's unavoidable. Only alternative is to give shelter to shitheads, who say the same things, but mean them.
I dont think you know how this meme works
controversial opinion; I think lots of companies should host lemmy instances for their own support forums.
Not controversial at all.
There are considerations.
Corporate instances affecting public opinion.
Corporate opinion silencing/moderating public opinion.
All that, and user moderation as well.
A company may not like legitimate dissenters, but it might be in the public interest...
Unmoderated, it might turn into a cesspool.
So, who moderates it? AI/AutoMod? And how? What algo? Does that retroactively apply on updates?
This happens on actual company forums. Yes.
So, we need 2 lemmy communities per company? Their one, and a public one? What if the public one is being unfair? Who knows about that?
It's tough!
I hate the word normie (ususally used by incels and the like)
Different version:
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Yes i wouldnt like to be linked to someone that whants costanza to step on them.
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Don't kid yourself. Its us that fuck it all up. We love getting fleeced by the simplest of content creators. We will walk in every single thing we hate about other sites into this site just because someone entertains us.
Soon as they got our attention, they'll monetize our it and everything will go to shit.
Its forbidden to talk shit about content creators, they make content and content is king.
On the internet, Creative people are the guys in suits. They'll do whatever they can to turn your every waking minute into a 24/7 commercial
But because it's federated, we can secede at anytime. It's a fool proof system like the united states.
One time we thought that Google was a cool startup head on against corporate giant Microsoft π
This is called enshittification, and happens to all platforms.
At least this platform has some sort of natural resistance against enshittification, given that no one party can completely dominate the platform without immediately getting squashed by the collective.
Anything that gains too much steam and mainstream attention is ripe for corporate takeover/infiltration. Federation should hopefully keep them at bay for a while.
Is there a FOSS license that can prohibit code being used for profit over a certain amount?
No, but there are copyleft licenses that require anyone using a fork of some open-source project for for-profit purposes to subsequently open-source any changes they make.
No, that's against the ideology of freedom. What you can do is dual license with a FOSS and a commercial license.
So what happens to both projects that buy into foss to commercial? Are they 2 single licenses then?
You have separate licences for commercial and non commercial use.
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