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    Picture of Skinner from "The Simpsons" with the linux logo on his face and the word "Pathetic" in the bottom center of the picture.

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    [–] [email protected] 58 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    ...NixOS is the new Arch Linux. Change my mind.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Hardly, NixOS documentation is trash. The Arch Wiki is essentially the platonic ideal of documentation.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

    Maybe you should learn to read the manual or debug your system without hand holding 😉

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The difference is I can upgrade my NixOS without breaking everything hahaha. But it has gotten a lot more popular recently, which I think is your analogy? Or because people always bring it up now lol

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    yea i think its the popularity spike. if only there were more docs on flakes though.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I still don't completely get their point, TBH.

    And the Nix language seems to be intentionally confusingly close to json.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

    The similarities are superficial at best. The only thing similar is that it uses braces for attribute sets (objects) and square brackets for lists. And I guess quotes for strings.

    But otherwise it's a full (functional) programming language, with functions, variable bindings, etc.

    Flakes aren't perfect, but they are really good for ensuring that you have completely reproducible builds since the version used for every dependency is pinned.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago
    • control the versions of the repo and packages

    • config the official repo (allow unfree packages for example) that doesn't work unless you're on nixos

    • add packages from a git repo

    • update package definitions (think apt update)

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    If only wiki was as good as Arch's...

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

    exactly. cant blame them tho, its unofficial.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

    It doesn't have a wiki as good as Arch, yet

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    [–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    with the linux logo on his face

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Why do you include the CC link in all of your comments...?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

    It's a phase

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

    Proprietary LLMs (it's non-commercial license)

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I gotta say and it feels weird to but I'm happy Arch are spending a bit longer testing these days. When I used to run it updates just felt rushed into the repo so Arch got it first.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    "bleeding edge"

    But maybe Arch doesn't purport to be bleeding edge anymore.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Getting plasma 6 a week after it drops is still “bleeding edge” when the alternative is a couple months

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

    Seriously, the learning curve of nixOS is still... exhausting. Couldn't get it to run with plasma 6 and wayland and the documentation is so incomplete.

    Edit: Typo

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

    That's unfortunately true. There's a community effort to document stuff without going through the lengthy process of getting it approved by overworked maintainers: https://nixlang.wiki

    Feel free to contribute your learnings there.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Couldn't Arch users just install it through the Nix Package manager?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

    NixOS users install KDE using a NixOS config option, as there's a lot of configuration needed to make KDE run beyond just installing the binaries.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

    And set up all the systemd services themselves? Sure. Have at it.

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago
    [–] possiblylinux127 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, we the people! Rise up, comrad!

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    [–] possiblylinux127 2 points 7 months ago

    In Russia people rise into you!

    Seriously though I can always spot your comments from the link you always include.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    Sassy Black Woman: What do you mean "You people"?

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Can't you just build from source of you want it? Like kde has pretty good docs for this.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

    It was also already in Arch's KDE-unstable repo. I've been using Plasma 6 for like 3 months.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    Compiling source code tends to get messy when you decide to remove it from your system. Also, you'll have to manually update it, any package manager will be unaware of it and can't do anything with it anyway. You'll also be responsible for dealing with conflicts with other software or dependency issues. That's why we have repos. Someone else did all that work already.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

    LFS users are like

    GTFO

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    fun fact: you could add the extra-testing to repo to get it the first day

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Considering all of my theming and several of my apps have broken today, and that I’ve had two crashes… I’m glad they took longer.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Things are weird too under Gnome rn. Check this out:

    I genuinely don't know how to fix this one. It just started doing that one day and it doesn't matter if i use or dash-to-dock, dash-to-panel, etc. The spacebar extension wants to plop it right before the menu. It's mildly infuriating. I really, really wish Gnome would just let us configure the panels more similar to Plasma or Latte-Dock. I don't want to switch to KDE Plasma because I don't like most QT apps and honestly Breeze doesn't look good as libadwaita. Custom themes are super inconsistent in Plasma and it drives me a bit nuts. Tho, I heard the KDE team proposed a solution that might make things better in the next couple versions.

    If I ended up on Plasma I'd have to exclude the majority of KDEs and add their Gnome equivalents XD

    I wonder if that would work... 🤔

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Hello Jazzy, it's nice to see you here. Hopefully your GNOME issue gets sorted quickly!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, I use Lemmy on and off, especially since I deleted my Reddit. I hope the problem just goes away since there was nothing I did that I recall which would have caused it. Perhaps a bug report is in order. If it doesn't go away is a week or so I might put in some effort to migrate to KDE Plasma, but I would rather not.

    Also I subbed to your taur community!

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    @[email protected] not really about this post, but i see that you have a license link in all your comments. Just curious, do you copy-paste that every time or do you have some automated setup?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I do copy paste it. KDE has a tool called klipper that allows to have a clipboard history, so hitting Super+V brings up a dropdown and I can select it. The effort is therefore minimal.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    Consider using the KDE keyboard shortcut tools to set up a permanent paste keybind instead of using the history.

    For example, I have a keybind that sends a known mouse movement input, which I use to set that known mouse input to always correspond to ten centimeters of on-screen movement.

    Using a keybind would remove the need to ever select the right item from the history, and reduce the clutter in it for copy-pasting other things.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

    Oh hey, I thanks for the hint. I hadn't thought of that!

    Looks like there was a bug in KDE5 (KDE6 is on another PC) and I had to follow instructions on this stackoverflow.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    They removed legacy font based DPI scaling. I hate it. Nothing looks right 😭

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

    How long until "works on my machine" becomes "works on my config"

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