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This is an unbiased history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Most in the U.S. are almost universally against Palestinian violence against Israel and somehow never explicitly critical of Israeli violence against Palestinians. But the left, the real left, is unabashedly supportive of Palestine. And the first paragraph of the background is why:

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict dates back to the end of the nineteenth century. In 1947, the United Nations adopted Resolution 181, known as the Partition Plan, which sought to divide the British Mandate of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states. On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was created, sparking the first Arab-Israeli War. The war ended in 1949 with Israel’s victory, but 750,000 Palestinians were displaced, and the territory was divided into 3 parts: the State of Israel, the West Bank (of the Jordan River), and the Gaza Strip.

How do you square support for Israel as a state when it's merely an extension of British colonialism, and when Israel seems to actively seek to deny Palestinians any form of autonomy as a policy? Not to mention the numbers of dead on both side after each conflict...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I'm American. Fuck Israel.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Easy. Because they actually respect human rights. You can be gay in Israel. It is a bad idea to be gay in Palestein.

And the left loves to side with those who hate gay people, while also loving gay people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because they actually respect human rights.

No they don't.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

And the left loves to side with those who hate gay people, while also loving gay people.

The left wants to see an end to both apartheid and persecution of the LGBTQ.

The Palestinians are getting criticized too:

https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/10/23/two-authorities-one-way-zero-dissent/arbitrary-arrest-and-torture-under

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

In the words of Golda Meir, Israel’s former prime minister, "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us" and "if the Arabs put down their guns there would be no more fighting. If the Israelis put down theirs there would be no more Israel."

Israel would like a two state solution, and offered as much in 2000 and 2008. Unfortunately the Palestinians do not feel the same way, they are not interested in peace, only extermination, they will settle for nothing less than Holocaust II. Hitler's Mein Kampf is a perennial top seller there, many Palestinians dont think he went far enough.

Take a look at the Hamas Covenant 1988

This line in Article Thirteen says it all;

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.

Yes, Israel is not always "good" and they have committed some atrocities over the years. Neither side is "good" but one side is definitely less evil