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[–] [email protected] 172 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm cynical, but this seems like something that would be incredibly easy to fake

[–] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Like all that fake data on Tesla's self-driving cars

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And that robot they were gonna release.

Not the human in a suit, the animatronic one.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What, Elon Musk publishing a doctored video making extraordinary claims as a marketing tool? I can't imagine it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

The fact it's a video game smells of Musk's touch. Anyone else remember all the tweets he made about Tesla running games on the main monitor?

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is gonna end up like those people who got an implant to be able to see, and when the company went under, they lost support and their eyesight

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago (6 children)

That's the first thing I said when this was first posted, all those people who had the implants that enabled sight are left with no parts and no support since the company went under.

There should be laws in place stating these companies will provide support and parts for the entire life of the users. Anything less is criminal.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Better to mandate open hardware and software standards, so if the company goes under others can make parts or even upgrade the devices.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

If nothing else, mandate the opening of the standards must coincide with the end of support. I realize it would mean a service blackout while another company tries to pick them up, but it would be a lot better than nothing and it doesn't hit the bottom line if a company operating now quite so much which would make it more palatable.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Inching closer to cyberpunk every day

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

I would add open plans and open source so that if anything happens with the company another company can come in and pick up support easily.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

How do you go about enforcing this when the company goes under? (Almost like healthcare shouldn't be private lol)

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Open Source required when going bankrupt for all biomedical companies?

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This is fantastic, but I am extremely worried about it being in the control of Elon Musk.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago (6 children)

And now we wait. Quick reminder about the Monkeys, which still haunt me.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, all of this news sounds cool, but I'm skeptical when all we hear is good things, especially after such tumultuous monkey trials.

I'm just waiting for a whistle blower to dump a bunch of evidence a decade from now showing all the horrific Unit 731- esque shit they're currently covering up in the name of science. But by that point we'll be receiving all our news directly into our cerebral cortex using "Musk-X" brand implants, so it will never be seen or reported on. And yes, even the poors have them; their units are subsidized by the unavoidable ads being drilled directly into their subconscious.

All you folks with kids have such a bright future for them to look forward to!

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago (8 children)

What they shown so far does not sound impressive. There is a twitch streamer that uses EEG device ans translates signals to button presses. She has beaten elden ring with that. From "achievement" point of view what they have shown here is not that special

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (18 children)

There is no way I am putting proprietary hardware and especially proprietary software into my brain.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (10 children)

We've all been playing Mario Kart with our minds already, using our mind to manipulate those fleshy sticks attached to our shoulders. It's fuckin amazing.

The only usefulness this has is to help someone who can't do that. And the fact that it's attached to Elon and that all previous test subjects died and that it's still been put in a human is pretty dystopian.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (18 children)

All previous animal test subjects died, including the majority that were euthanized at the end of the test period for dissection and study. There was a super high failure rate but let's not misrepresent what actually happened.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How much is the subscription for ad-free thinking? Or is it free for non-commercial use?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (12 children)

I didn’t know about people, but there is no way I am getting a fucking electronic chip installed in my brain, no matter how cool it might be

It should only ever be imo used to help the disabled and that too without any involvement of someone like elon

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Non invasive BCI capable of the exact stuff neuralink has demonstrated has existed for a while and its probably a much more viable way to help the disabled than cramming chips into their head.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

What if it's a suppository.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

🤔 How girthy we talkin' here?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait until Nintendo's lawyers hear about this. Pretty sure brain chip compatible Nintendo controllers count as illegal homebrew.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Neuralink hasn't address the security complications, hopefully their engineers know what are they doing

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Heads-up, there appears to be some astroturfing going around. This is not an impressive demo, I've seen better without brain implants. If anything, I'm more impressed that the test subject hasn't died yet.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (13 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (13 children)

I hate Elon but love the idea of this. The utopian version, not the dystopian version obviously.

We are really going to have to make sure that regulation is solid if we want to go towards the positive utopian version.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is cool but they burned through a bunch of monkeys to get here.

Also, fuck Elon.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (12 children)

I've seen this kind of thing as well as people given an entirely new sense (a sense of direction similar to how birds can sense magnetic north) with just an EEG cap. Why would you need to implant something directly in the brain to do this?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

The same can be achieved with non-implanted BCI. Why get invasive surgery?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Bullshit until proven otherwise. Dangerous and stupid regardless. And a depressing harbinger of the corpo cyberpunk dystopia whether this is real or totally faked.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (9 children)

It hopefully won't be an Elon company, but someone is gonna mangle a TON of pigs and monkeys to make this tech ready work.

Humanity needs to understand what it will take. Even the highest standards of specimen care are still horrific.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if they still lean in to the turns. I can't not do that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IIRC they’re paralyzed from the shoulders down, so probably not.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I see where this is going. FSD 2.0 will use human in the loop, saving money on cameras and LIDAR.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Not supertuxcart ? I'm dissapointed and my day is ruined.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

How many years of software updates? 😆

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