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GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l...::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'm not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn't have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they already announced they would be targeting their infotainment as a subscription based service.

A quick duck duck go: https://www.pymnts.com/subscriptions/2022/gm-rolling-out-dozens-of-new-subscription-offerings/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GM is also competing for a piece of the $5.5 billion connected commercial vehicle market, as PYMNTS reported recently.

The company offers a fleet telematics solution called OnStar Vehicle Insights that features a vehicle locator, vehicle health, driver behavior, performance insights, daily trip summaries and remote commands. This last tool lets drivers lock, unlock and remote start the vehicle from a website or app.

I would rather have none of that in my vehicle, thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. It’s a line in the sand at this point.

I remember back in the 90s looking at these super cool CD players people and installed. I’m sure the nice ones were insanely expensive. CarPlay/Android Auto is a better UI than literally any other option ever put in a car. End of story.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I refuse to own a car that doesn't have a DIN slot for my own tech.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What modern vehicles still have that? Most of the cars I've had lately and aren't even modern have proprietary shit

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ladies and gentlemen... FROM the company that brought us "Cadillac CUE" (all-capacitive-buttons information controls)...

...Something nobody wants!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked at a Cadillac dealership and I absolutely HATED the cars that had these. Barely functioned in the winter time

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

55” infotainment screen, in a fucking vehicle? That’s what I have in my living room. 🤯

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

with an aspect ratio of 20:1 across the entire dash.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

yeah but it's like 5" high.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would literally walk out of the dealership

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

The only reasonable response to walking into a GM dealership

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

laughing, too

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I still don't understand why car brands don't just use Android Automotive anyway. Most native infotainment systems in cars still look and feel like they're from the early 2000s.

That 55-inch interface they're showing off really looks like some weird 2006-ish concept.

Edit: Apparently, it's running "Google built-in" which means that this particular system is based on Android Automotive OS and it's just running some proprietary launcher on top.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wonder how long before they stop pushing updates to it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's implying that they'll push updates at all

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We all know that the look of the interface will stay the same throughout the lifetime of the car. At least with CarPlay or Android Auto, it represents the interface of your phone. CarPlay is a hard requirement for my vehicles.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'know what would be great?

An industry standard system that would work properly with any type of phone, tablet or other mobile device.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Preferably one that doesn't run like shit.

And while we're at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Back to Bluetooth and Google maps on your phone after the free data period ends. Such a bad move for consumers.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Not that I needed any more, but I’ll take reason I’ll never own a GM for $5000 Alex.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Give it some time and there will be a guide to replacing the whole thing with a raspberry pi and cheap screen from Ali express.

It will also probably have more functionality and be less awful to use.

Fuck all these proprietary systems with their locked down ecosystems. Its blatantly planned obsolescence and will cause a ton of e waste. But fuck it as long as some shareholder is happy right.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Lack of AA isn't the problem, it's the 130k for that hideous monstrosity.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need a open standard fully open source alternative.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why? They work with the phone you have.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Neither CarPlay nor Android Auto are open source, nor are either open standards.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

No problem, there are other cars to choose from.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will be interesting to see how many of these they actually sell. I’m guessing it will flop and the factory will be retooled to build a different EV in a year. Same with Hummer line. These models are wayyyyy too niche.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I mean the 2023 ESV sport platinum is MSRP 108k and you get 14/16mpg. So I mean if you were already looking at one and you now get 450miles per charge it may be worth it.

Definitely be interesting to see how they do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don’t think the market for these is consumers. I think it’s more targeted towards brands/companies. Suburbans are the “go to” vehicle for a lot of upscale valet services and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of those go electric to save on costs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Call me crazy, but the way the bottom control screen is off centered from the central nav/infotainment bit above it looks horrible and I can't imagine buying such an expensive car with such an annoying design.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Eh. I have no CarPlay in my 2016 Prius and the proprietary system they have only makes me almost crash my car 30% of the time I use it so I can't complain.

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