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GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l...::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn't have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they already announced they would be targeting their infotainment as a subscription based service.

A quick duck duck go: https://www.pymnts.com/subscriptions/2022/gm-rolling-out-dozens-of-new-subscription-offerings/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GM is also competing for a piece of the $5.5 billion connected commercial vehicle market, as PYMNTS reported recently.

The company offers a fleet telematics solution called OnStar Vehicle Insights that features a vehicle locator, vehicle health, driver behavior, performance insights, daily trip summaries and remote commands. This last tool lets drivers lock, unlock and remote start the vehicle from a website or app.

I would rather have none of that in my vehicle, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like my vehicles like I like my software - buy once for the features that exist now; upgrade when there is a compelling reason to do so. This rent-seeking subscription bullshit is crap.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. It’s a line in the sand at this point.

I remember back in the 90s looking at these super cool CD players people and installed. I’m sure the nice ones were insanely expensive. CarPlay/Android Auto is a better UI than literally any other option ever put in a car. End of story.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I refuse to own a car that doesn't have a DIN slot for my own tech.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What modern vehicles still have that? Most of the cars I've had lately and aren't even modern have proprietary shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a 2016 Jeep which is relatively modern and installed an aftermarket head unit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2016 model year is 8 years old + now...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao.. i didn't even realise how old my 2012 is

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

cries in a 2007 Yaris

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the idea is to get you to pay for data for your car. Tesla is often cited as doing the same thing (eg no phone projection, use the built in), but their unlimited data price is super reasonable at like $100/year. I am not sure what GM is charging, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's more.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but I also already pay for a phone and am tired of being nickel and dimed at every opportunity. The price of the service isn't necessarily the issue -- it's the fact that there is a price to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Totally agree. Don't tell me more reasons why I want to pay like, "your car is a hotspot now!". I can already do that with my phone. There's no need to have a data plan per device in my mind if you already have a modem in your pocket.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am not sure what GM is charging

To be honest, I don't really care what it costs I wouldn't pay. No car manufacturer in the world has ever produced a car with a good mapping system. I can't imagine why anyone would pay anything at all for a product that's worse than the free one in their phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And you can add horrible UIs to that list too, that GM system looks like ass

I’ve got a Dodge Journey they have horrible looking icons from 1995 with a shit looking red backdrop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep agree. Even if it’s super reasonable now, just wait until they've got everyone. It’s the enshittification of the auto industry.