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Members of the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol have warned America for three years to take former President Donald Trump at his word.

Now, as Trump is poised to win the Republican presidential nomination, his criminal trials face delays that could stall them past Election Day, and his rhetoric grows increasingly authoritarian, some of those lawmakers find themselves following their own advice.

In mid-March, Trump said on social media that the committee members should be jailed. In December he vowed to be a dictator on “day one.” In August, he said he would “have no choice” but to lock up his political opponents.

“If he intends to eliminate our constitutional system and start arresting his political enemies, I guess I would be on that list,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose). “One thing I did learn on the committee is to pay attention and listen to what Trump says, because he means it.”

Lofgren added that she doesn’t yet have a plan in place to thwart potential retribution by Trump. But Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), who has long been a burr in Trump’s side, said he’s having “real-time conversations” with his staff about how to make sure he stays safe if Trump follows through on his threats.

“We’re taking this seriously, because we have to,” Schiff said. “We’ve seen this movie before … and how perilous it is to ignore what someone is saying when they say they want to be a dictator.”

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Non-American just double-checking I’ve got his right…

Private citizen makes actionable credible threat to unlawfully detain legislators, legislators choose to do nothing for about half a year before slowly murmuring without specifics other than “yeah he said it” and “I think he means us”.

You OK USA? Just checking in.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There is, unfortunately, no law against saying you're going to be a power abusing jackass. And the Republicans have decided that if he gets into office, they'll protect him from impeachment and removal no matter what. His lawyers have literally argued that the president can order assassinations of their political rivals.

So no, we're not okay.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

There is, unfortunately, no law against saying you’re going to be a power abusing jackass.

I would argue that Trump committed sedition and terroristic threats. The trouble is that everyone in the Federal government is either too chickenshit or too traitorous themselves to prosecute.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I see. I should have my lawyers argue buying a $1,000,000 house for $0 is reasonable, that way a deal for $500,000 is perfectly reasonable. In the same way that threatening to illegally detain is a halfway compromise between nothing and threatening murder.

And it seems that imprisoning political opponents goes beyond carting down a hill in a shopping trolley which is what we here overseas associate with “jackass”, but what do I know.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago

We are not okay. Nothing will happen to him about it, though. He can be literally court ordered to not talk shit about courtroom staff or families, then talk shit about them, and he gets nothing other than a reduced bond and an extension to pay that.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Going after Trump for his crimes would set a precedent for going after the rest of them for their crimes. It's in their interests to not open that door.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes this is exactly why the impeachments failed. It would have been easy to take him down for the violation of the emoluments clause (profiting from their office), but nobody in power would do it because then they'd face corruption charges for it too

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

https://images.app.goo.gl/fQWwqgb2CPyjUDkM7

Jokes aside, if the US falls to fascism, it’s gonna be a massive problem for Europe. Imagine fascists in charge of the biggest nation with a history of colonialism, and the world’s largest stockpile of nukes.

It would be awesome if the other first-world nations started taking this threat seriously, before it’s too late.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

We need the world to issue sanctions against the US. Please sanction us. We lost control of the government and need your help

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Giving our oligarchs the same treatment as russian oligarchs would be a good start. Seize their property and assets wherever and whenever possible.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

We are not. Please send help

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 8 months ago (6 children)

wow, this trump guy seems scary 😳 i wonder what the democrats are doing to stop him

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Well they are supporting a genocide in Gaza, that should help convince people to vote for them right?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (59 children)

"We're taking this seriously"

Then why have they not arrested (and hopefully executed) Trump and most of his toadies yet? Seems like they're not that serious.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

B-but then we're just as bad as them boohoo

How is arresting a fascist bad you ask? Uhhhhhh

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

Remember the Lulags? gamer-gulag

This is why smuglord

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

They're preparing to do what? Tut tut and issue a statement? Impeach him a third time and fail again to remove him from office? The Democrats don't believe in anything

If they actually believed Trump is the next Pinochet they'd hire someone to kill him. Or they'd go after one of the legit crimes he did rather than anything he'll just slip out of. Biden could get the national guard to burn down Mar-a-lago but he won't.

They don't actually believe in anything. They're spineless dorks who want to pretend they're saving democracy or whatever. It's all theater to these people. In fact, they probably want Trump to win so their districts will throw more money at Democratic fundraisers. What a bunch of goofy nerd libs.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dork and nerd here. Please dont lump us in with those plutocratic assholes. They are not dorks nor nerds.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Invertebrate slime? I could call them a bunch of stuff. I mean to say the Democrats are cowards who have no beliefs except cynicism. I don't mean to catch anyone in the crossfire. If you're into coding or Gundam or something that's cool, don't worry, I don't mean you. I own an entire shelf of manga and I repair cassette tape players so I'm a dork too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Why not call them what they are? They are capitalists. I can't think of a more apt and degregating term than that.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), who has long been a burr in Trump’s side, said he’s having “real-time conversations” with his staff about how to make sure he stays safe

Bro will absolutely let himself be jailed under belief that the system works and everything will turn out okay lmao

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Trump himself isn’t going to do anything.

Who would be the ones arresting them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It boggles my mind that anyone would listen to anything that fat fucking twatburger says.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Barron and Eric showing up in brown shirts to haul Dems away would be funny.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't need anyone to arrest his opponents. He just needs the fervent MAGA base to be whipped up into a frenzy like on Jan 6th. To be so angry if no LEO arrests Trump's opponents that they go out kill them, because hey it's totally cool now because Trump's a dictator.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Oh look, yet another reminder of why the working class must never disarm.

SocialistRA.org

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Or why people need to get their shit together and get involved in politics

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I agree with the ideals behind socialism more than any other political ideology. I own a gun. I don't think it would do me a bit of good if a modern government decided I should be dead.

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