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Oh boy, where do I even start. Some time ago I decided to buy a second pen. I wanted something cheap to use with a document ink. Because my choises of ink were quite limited (and still are), I decided to pick Koh-I-Noor Document Blue as

  • relatively cheap ink,
  • relatively well-behaved ink (allegedly),
  • bottle says it's blue.

As for the pen, I decided to buy Kaweco Perkeo with M nib size for no particular reason, besides nice nib quality (allegedly), and it being basically overgrown Kaweco Sport, which people say is a good pen.

And well, I kinda hate and love this duo at the same time.

First of all - colour. It's nice shade of blue, if you filling your converter as intende. Which means inserting it inside the pen and then dipping the nib in ink.

Otherwise the colour of ink will be a bit different. You can say it's blue, but not quite. It's too soft and pastel for it's own good. Especially when you consider that officials don't like different colours when you're signing documents.

To be fair it's indeed a document ink. It's fairly water-resistant. In my tests water didn't blur the ink very much, and in the rubbing test Koh-I-Noor surrendered, when the paper started to wear out, so in that regard the ink is adequate.

And speaking of it's water-resistance, as any other document ink, Koh-I-Noor Document Blue will clog your pen when you don't write with it frequently enough. Well, at least write once a week with it, or your pen will start skipping.

Speaking of the pen, you definitely need to wash it before use, or it will burp ink when converter is half-full. When I didn't wash the nib and feed properly, I was experiencing skipping, and colour was a bit dull.

Nib is good. Lines are thinner than Lamy Safari M nib, and it writes smooth.

So in conclusion, maybe I just need to use another ink in my Perkeo. But for now it works.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not wanting to advertise Reddit use too much, but you should look at the posts by u/bosseschreibt. He/she/they take some great pictures of writing samples with a number of Document inks, sometime side by side. One of their posts actually made me want a sample of Koh-I-Noor Document Blue. Anyway, their pictures are a great for seeing samples of various Document Inks from multiple brands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you live in Europe, Koh-I-Noor is usually very cheap. You can buy the whole bottle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That looks like a nice reliable blue.

I primarily use document inks for addressing envelopes, which can be infrequent. To avoid clogging a pen, I've been considering getting a dip pen like the Pilot Iro-Utsushi. It's still a metal nib, as opposed to a glass pen, and more for everyday writing than a calligraphy nib.

https://www.jetpens.com/Pilot-Iro-Utsushi-Dip-Pen-Clear-Fine-Nib/pd/34522

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You should look at kakimori dip pens. It is highly regarded in the reviews I've seen except perhaps the standard pen nib attachment which in one review was considered scratchy and stored very little ink.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for your suggestions!

Maybe I'll buy one when I decide to get India Ink or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@redbird The Kakimori is fantastic. If you’d prefer a more pen-like experience try the Sailor Hocoro (https://www.afth.co.uk/sailor---hocoro---dip-pens-1333-c.asp) which you can get in a couple different nib sizes & colours, as well as a feed so that it holds more ink per dip.

I feel like “ink per dip” or “ipd” should be a unit of measurement we use for dip pens 🤣

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Those look neat. You can use glass and metal nibs in them!