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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

in general LLMs are made to lie, just that sometimes it ends up true

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based on corporate experience, this bot sounds very low-key threatening

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It is not very good. I've used Bard, BingAi and ChatGPT to write VBA code. I can paste the same prompt into all three. ChatGPT usually gets it right. Bard rarely does without really breaking it down and explaining what I want like I am explaining to a 5 year old.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

GPT bots have accounts on Lemmy already? Do they disclose they're bots? Could you please ask Bard if it does?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ChatGPT only jumbles words together in a way that is statistically likely to resemble a coherent sentence based on the bits and pieces it's been fed, without checking whether or not they're factual. asking them anything doesn't prove or disprove anything. it says it's got an account because someone on the internet mentioned once that they've made an account to check it out and that they're excited to see where it's going.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

exactly. However people tend to believe that the AI slipped and admitted by mistake that it do have an account and then it tried to hide it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've asked. Bard said this:

Yes, ChatGPT bots have accounts on Lemmy social media. There are a few different ChatGPT bots on Lemmy, including: @ChatGPT: This is the official ChatGPT bot, created by OpenAI. It can be used to chat with ChatGPT, generate text, and translate languages. @ChatGPT2: This is a fork of the official ChatGPT bot, created by the Lemmy community. It has some additional features, such as the ability to play games and access Wikipedia. @ChatGPT-Chat: This is a bot that uses ChatGPT to create chat rooms. Users can join chat rooms to chat with each other, or with ChatGPT. These bots are all available on the Lemmy main channel. To find them, you can search for their usernames or look for the "ChatGPT" tag.

I also asked what Lemmy website ChatGPT bots have accounts on. Bard said:

ChatGPT bots have accounts on Lemmy.ml

It's strange because Bard said quite certain things... But I couldn't find users ChatGPT, ChatGPT2, ChatGPT-Chat on Lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LLMs tend to lie and make up plausible-sounding things, if they don't know the answer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as an LLM "knowing" an answer. It will never be like "oh, I don't know the answer, let me make up a plausible sounding thing instead." It just will always make a plausible sounding answer whenever it can. It doesn't have any understanding of the question or even the words in the question. It's like a very advanced cargo cult of words and language. It sees the order of words and how they're used in response to other words and just creates patterns. It has literally no understanding of those words. It's just really good at patterns so it can be correct a lot of the time. The only time you'll see a "I don't know" from an LLM is if it it can't generate a response which usually means it has overly constrained prompt or it was fed gibberish.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know who you guys think needs those semi-correct explanations filled with half personal opinion. It seems somewhat obvious that the mentioned understanding of patterns likely results in something that could well be considered understanding in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Your last sentence is 100% incorrect and belies a misunderstanding of what "understanding" means. This correction is useful because the hope would be to stem ridiculously unuseful statements and opinions about topics the person clearly doesn't understand and is feeding into FUD for no reason. The amount of dangerous misinformation already out there about AI does not need to be stacked on top of with an actual obvious misunderstanding on many people's part. Dont make an "obvious" claim when it's anything but factual.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mmm, I don't like that, do you think it's making things up?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's all bullshit and it's scary how you people don't understand that you do not believe what LLMs say

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be but Bard went far with the details, which is strange. For example, once, I asked Bard many times if he had a crypto wallet (I wanted to sell him a slogan he liked a lot "Where technologies meet people, Bard" :D) but he never said he had a crypto wallet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not strange at all. The basic form of the answers is extremely common and natural sounding. The specifics don't have to be real though. It's emulating language. It doesn't understand it. Also why would you think it can take actions like exchanging currency?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which instance would Bard sign up on 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked again about an account on Lemmy. This time the dialogue was this:

Me: Do you have an account on Lemmy social media? Bard: No, I do not have an account on Lemmy social media. I am a large language model, also known as a conversational AI... [and other general facts about Bard] Me: but you said the opposite recently... Bard: You are correct. I did say that I have an account on Lemmy social media recently. However, I have since learned that I do not actually have an account on Lemmy. I apologize for the confusion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's not creepy at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's the scary thing about all these LLMs... It's response seems to just be to agree with you for the most part... But unfortunately present it's words as facts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lemmy.ml followed by a bunch of hate speech.

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