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[–] [email protected] 143 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Misinterpreting contextually appropriate diction is not pedantry.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You should start going to meetings

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they should participate, so technically they should attend meetings.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well attending doesn't necessarily imply participating.

...Will someone please forward the meeting invite to me? I'd like to attend. Whether I participate is yet to be seen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's yet to be HEARD. Unless we're able to see all participants at the same time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

No, it is indeed more likely to be seen via online text, as most people do not have irl contact with OP nor their phone number

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

...and we don't have deer/frog eyes. Wow, this conversation has gone off the rails.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Technically, there were no rails to begin with. So, if the conversation was never on the the non-existent rails, it certainly could not have gone off them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

"Off the rails" is clearly an idiom in this scenario, and the "rails" are a metaphor for the original line ideation, which has been lost.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Technically.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Um, ackshully, "last" in this context is clearly using the definition of "previous", not "final".

No wonder that guy's going to meetings, he needs practice to be a better pedant.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of them do, honestly. If you are going to do a thing, you might as well be at least good at it.

One of the greatest things I learned from studying linguistics and language, and knowing a lot of people from a lot of dispersed cultural backgrounds.. is to just roll with it because life is short and communicating effectively is fucking difficult. If you can get by with “good enough to convey the message as intended”, you’ve actually managed a supreme feat. Because a message has so many layers, like an ogre, it’s so hard to get them all right every time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Active listening is a powerful tool, and it kind of shows how little of communication is actually word based

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

personally, i would go with “prior meeting”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Technically all the meetings we've had before this one are prior.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Our most recent prior meeting to this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I mean, I wouldn't exactly call it a meeting...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

how could i have been so foolish

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I glanced at a few dictionaries, and it appears last as an adjective here is perfectly valid, meaning "next before the present".

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

I like this club.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Actually, there are multiple Lemmy instances and each one has a different foundation and general culture. Some are gay and pedantic, some are racist and pedantic, and some are pendantically excited about the brutal expansion of the Russian empire.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Ackshualemmy....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The more inconsequential the topic, the more insistent the deliberate failure to understand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

The ackshully faces of the two blue shirts are perfect

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Last would be the one before the current one, not the current one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Technically the correct term is "prior."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

More accurately, "prior" is much less ambiguous than "last" and thus more likely to satisfy the predilections of a pedant.

Gosh I love the depth of pedantry available to descriptivists!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Hmmm, our prior meeting.

No wait, the prior meeting.

*No wait, the most recent prior meeting.

*No wait: the most recent prior meeting of this club.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This club's meeting dated so and so date and day of the gregorian calendar

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

so technically, it would be the most recent complete meeting, i.e. not an ongoing meeting, but already completed, but the most recent completed one that isn't the one thats currently going on, because the one that's currently happening isn't complete yet, and the rule states that it must be complete. But once this currently happening meeting IS completed, it will become the most recent meeting.

But how does the next meeting get defined?

[–] Cethin 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or wouldn't "previous" be easier?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

previous is still up to debate on semantical terms as to how you define the currently on going meeting. If it's previous to the ongoing meeting that is happening at this very instance, than yeah sure, it's the previous meeting. But if we're only talking about meetings that have been completed, and have happened in the past, than previous could refer to the most recent complete meeting, or the one prior to that, depending on context. Which is not very explicitly clear.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Any sane person in such a situation would just use the dates. "As you recall, during the April 23 meeting..."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Given that the facilitator is insufficiently pedantic while reciting the minutes from the previous meeting, I would assume that the club has not existed for long enough that the year could be ambiguous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what if you're holding it across international datelines?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those in attendance would be aware. The chair said "as you might recall," implying that they were present at the previous meeting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

oh true, how could i forget, some people may not have been present. So it also depends on who is at the meetings, and who wasn't at the meetings, because it's not going to be perfect lol.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Umm.... guys, I regret to inform you, but this is the Pedants Club

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

There is no 'the' Pedants Club as their are multiple Pedants Clubs throughout the internet. Giving any single one a definite article would be misleading.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

It is correct to say last. In french we can say "dernier en date" meaning latest but we usually drop the last 2 words, and only "last" remains

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ok. As all of yours previously might recall to remember as per from the last recent meeting, we were unanimously divided on the topic whence we should label our sign on the door with capitol letters or lower base letters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've found that one of the more reliable ways to activate the local pedant population in any given situation is to quote lyrics from the 1996 Alanis Morissette song "Ironic". It's like rain, on your wedding day!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

A song about irony full of examples where none of them are irony is pretty ironic. It's a real case of "task failed successfully".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago