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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/14764738

Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The current top Steam Review;

Yeah i'm not linking my account to PSN.

  • April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
  • May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
  • June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
  • November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
  • August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
  • September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
  • October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach
[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Ah, that explains why all of my accounts disappeared…

[–] [email protected] 124 points 7 months ago (22 children)

Didn't think this was real at first read. But holy fudge it it is.. Game is now being review bombed on steam. Here's an additional article from Gaming on Linux:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/05/helldivers-2-will-soon-actually-require-a-playstation-network-account/

[–] [email protected] 92 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The review chart is hilarious.

review chart

Doubt Sony or the developer expected this would happen.

Edit [May/04, 14h UTC]: Updated chart. More than 70k negative reviews already.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

thanks for sharing the chart! I doubt they Sony takes a hint from this too, but it certainly shows other developers and publishers something about signing contracts with Sony...

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sony should take the hint. Many of these reviews are from people who can’t even get a PSN account in their country. So Steam is about to be flooded with requests for refunds due to the game not being available to some users. I already asked for a refund because of this.

It’s unlikely steam will be able to tell people to just pound sand, so Valve will likely step in at some point and then Sony will be in trouble with the platform itself.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So, at first install, I actually linked my account to a PSN account that I knew was banned due to a charge back on an unwanted purchase. At the time, I figured if I discovered that I can't play because my account is banned from PSN, I'd just refund on Steam. I feel I'll be very justifiably pissed if my account is now banned from playing retroactively, long after the refund window.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the point of contention I am curious about. If Sony can be the one to kick you off the game that you bought on Steam and you don't get refunded for it, I will review it negatively. Let me know what happens after the update forcing PSN.

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[–] SuperSaiyanSwag 77 points 7 months ago (5 children)

This feature doesn’t affect me personally, but it is still very scummy to add it after launch. Long after refund window is out of the question.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Well, it affects me in that now I know not to buy this game and support such a scummy practice.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A change like this may warrant special exceptions to the refund rules. Steam has made exceptions for similar changes to games made after launch in the past.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (5 children)

They sold this game in dozens of countries where you can't make a PSN account. That right there is what pisses me the fuck off. Complete horseshit to do that to people.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As a PlayStation user, I’d be pissed if I needed to use a steam login.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago

Well that’s certainly one way to kill a game. Heck, I HAVE a PS5, and I still would be annoyed as fuck by that.

Sure, you can offer to link an account for things like progress tracking. But it certainly shouldn’t be forced on anyone.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Why would people not trust putting any info and linking their Steam account to a company with a history of at least 8 hacks + 5 massive data breaches? I wonder. 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Well my PSN account is banned so am I just fucked? Lol what a joke

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I would love to see Valve allow refunds. This was not an agreed upon stipulation at the time of purchase. If they pull the game from you now so soon after purchase, is it not grounds for a refund? Give Sony the choice to backtrack or lose money.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Man it's such a shame. I was looking forward to trying it, but I'm not going to create a psn acc for it

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

Even worse! You can't even have a PSN account everywhere you can have a Steam account with this game

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

Trying to refund it, although pretty low chance since it's well past the window. But that's part of what makes it so bullshit to bring this in long after that window closed. I'd have refunded the game on the spot if it actually required the account creation from the get go. I refunded Red Dead 2 after it turned out to require a Rock Star account. Fortunately that was apparent on start up so I just quit and refunded.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Looks like Nintendo and Sony are competing who can get away with being a bigger asshole. Boundary testing sociopaths. Game becomes popular, dev and publisher foist unpopular requirement to continue playing in order to see what the response is and if it doesnt tank numbers too much, they now have a green light to weasel this into other games. Hell even if it does tank numbers, they already have their money and you probably wont be able to get a refund at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (3 children)

People have been remarking that numerous countries are unable to join PSN and this will lock them out of the game. But can someone explain to me how that could be true? Are they literally not on the drop-down menu for selecting your country?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago

Yes. PSN is only available in about 70 countries (out of 190). E.g. in the entire continent of Africa only one country has access.

Even some members of European Union don't get PSN.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

One of the Arrowhead community managers said they're trying to get more information regarding regions, so it kinda seems like they weren't fully prepared for this/got blindsided by Sony a bit. There should be an FAQ/QA with additional info coming soon.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

Welp it was fun playing while it lasted. Sorry arrowhead but fuck that not happening. Time to move on to another game

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I was gonna finally get around to buying this last night, and this stopped me.

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