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Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Let the infinite forking on infinite platforms commence.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Barbara Streisand Effect x 8000.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

So which github projects are interesting?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Fork yourself, nintendo!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Unlimited Fork Works

[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop using GitHub. Especially if you're working on anything that corpo interests will frown on, but just generally, there are plenty of alternatives (both git and non-git) that aren't owned by Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Well, just to the next. Hope Nintendo wastes more money on legal.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well it's probably cheaper than to innovate on the hardware front (display, performance, Joy-Cons, etc.) . And since they have an insane amount of money, it think they can keep doing this for quite some time...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Their innovation on that end is going to the electronics warehouse with a box and getting the cheapest things you can get...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I mean it's easy to shit on the switch now that it's a 7 year old console, and don't get me wrong the joycon drift is fuckin ridiculous, but the switch was kinda impressive when it came out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's basically just an Android tablet with shitty controllers on each side and some proprietary OS. The only thing that makes the Switch special are the exclusive Nintendo games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You've basically described all gaming consoles lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The one thing that impresses me about consoles though: How tf do they manage to run even graphics-intensive games on such low-end hardware? I mean sure, frame rates aren't great, but the fact that these games still run and are somehow playable amazes me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it's because they're targeting a very small number of devices as opposed to the infinite number of possible combinations of hardware a computer could have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Right, that makes sense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was underpowered when it came out and didn't introduce anything their other consoles didnt already have (nor have I ever seen someone use half the features).

What's really impressive is the devs making games for it, showing off how much the mobile gaming market is holding us back by making Candy Crush Soda Ultra Supermax

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and didn't introduce anything their other consoles didnt already have (nor have I ever seen someone use half the features).

I don't remember undocking my PS4 to play it on the go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

But you may have with your Gameboy, gameboy advanced, Ds, dsi, dsiXL, 2ds, 3ds, wiiu, PSP, or PSP vita.

And if you consider a portable HDMI output important, laptops and phones could do this probably half a decade before the switch came out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You can't compare Wii U because it has to be super close to the console and not all games could be played on the game pad. Unless the Vita had HDMI output then this was definitely a new feature of game consoles. Maybe you can compare NetBooks to the Switch if you're being generous but laptops and phones are a totally different form factor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I remember a lot of problems on launch

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is almost a zero cost. They already have the legal-ish ruling. It is just filling out a form letter and sending it out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Still a lawyer doing it. If everyone ads a repo every day, they would waste a lot of funds on fighting against windmills.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You don't need a lawyer to file a DMCA request. You just need to be ready to get one if someone disputes it.

And Nintendo almost definitely have lawyers on retainer, if not in house. The added cost of this is the effort it takes to search github for "uzu" and send an email.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There are law firms that work on contract specifically to do this work. And it's not like the senior partner is doing it repo by repo, it's a junior paralegal searching GitHub for "yuzu.cpp" or whatever and filing one big takedown request for all the results.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Hmm I smell another "DeCSS" coming along...

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 2 points 4 months ago

If there hadn't already been a court ruling-ish (it is complicated) giving Nintendo the "right" to do this? Sure

As it stands? It very well could be an intern filling out a word document

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Technically you don't, but they are still used.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They almost certainly have in house legal teams and those lawyers are salaried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

No they usually use big international lawyer firms. Or at least thats what i got from them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

just to the next

who distributes ROMs on Discord. I guess most emulators will be fine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I hope this doesn't spread out towards other emulators just as a matter of "principle" (by Nintendo's definition)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is why I keep a physical backup of all my emulator installers on an external hard drive. They get rid of some emulators, I still got my personal copies!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah I've been playing Pokemon Sacred Gold on my phone, really gives me GBC pipes with the size and everything it's like childhood all over.

I have the emulator and the games on my pc and my phone though so fuck Nintendo.

I'm playing a 15 year old game someone improved upon that I already owned on hardware I can't buy anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah totally worried for Ryujinx. I don’t see how they can survive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

If Nintendo stays consistent, they went after Yuzu because they were accepting donations. They went after ROM sites that had advertising. They left everyone else alone if they aren't making money off their games. Right now Ryujinx has a Patreon page...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Torrents people.

Say, anyone want a yuzu magnet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't give a rat's dick about Nintendo and their shitty games and I will torrent it out of pure spite

Send me the link

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:404295db91d035ae11395ad1755ab7e5dc8b6f19&xt=urn:btmh:1220f2bd7dbfd7ec2e25c9e848cf0b17d771332e57e3ba109368e111c0a45967966e&dn=yuzu-full-archive&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.auctor.tv%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.tracker.cl%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3a451%2fannounce&tr=https%3a%2f%2fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3a443%2fannounce&so=0-23

Idk if it still works

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Thoughts on Forgejo? Heard about that one for selfhosting git

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Is there a p2p based equivalent?

I don't even know how would that work, but seems something that would fit here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I mean, the alternative is Ryujinx, which Nintendo has for some reason ignored for now.

(Ryujinx's devs are much more cautious about things like banning any references to piracy in their discord and avoiding anything that could look like getting money in exchange for access, both of which may have given them less legal exposure.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I think a federated version should work....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Here's a link to an instance of radicle for Yuzu. It's a p2p git server implementation. I haven't looked too much into it yet, but the tech seems interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

As the article mentions, they're releasing the Switch successor soon. I suspect the real reason for this push is to try and scare people off from developing an emulator for that one, at least during the lifetime of the console - it's a bit late to try and kill Switch emulation given that nearly fully-functional emulators already exist.