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Today, we are launching Proton Sentinel, a high-security program that will allow our teams and systems to better protect users who need the most security. This program was motivated by our years of experience serving high-profile people and organizations from around the world. Some of our most security-demanding users include journalists from the largest publications, governments of several countries, leaders of international peace organizations, heads of major religions, and members of parliaments. Accounts such as these have a high risk of being attacked by criminals or state-backed hackers. We are now ready to provide the same level of advanced protection and support that we reserved for these VIPs to any Proton user that wants it through the Proton Sentinel program.

Link to Proton's blog post: https://proton.me/blog/sentinel-high-security-program

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I feel like Proton is launching too many things at the same time. I wish they’d improve what already exists first (mainly thinking about Proton Drive and Pass here, but there are probably other things as well).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. Their android app and calendar needs some serious work.

I'm slightly bummed out I bought a whole 24 months.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting on a bridge for Calendar to use with email clients like Outlook or Thunderbird. Works fine in Android but I feel like there's not much use in a desktop calendar I have to log in through a browser to access.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Still waiting on a bridge for Calendar to use with email clients like Outlook or Thunderbird. Works fine in Android but I feel like there’s not much use in a desktop calendar I have to log in through a browser to access.

Yeah I added the calendars to rhunderbird but read onl.y

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not saying it's a bad product, but all I'm seeing here is "we're releasing yet another new product while our existing lineup languishes in the quagmire of Soon™ regarding relatively basic features."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I feel like enabling FIDO2 2FA on mobile apps would be a much better use of resources at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is cool and all, but I would prefer they focus on making their existing apps more usable. Like letting me access Proton Drive in my files app, like you can with other cloud providers.

Or let me access my Proton Calendar on my Linux desktop without having to use web browser. Potential integration with Gnome Calendar / Gnome Shell would be amazing. I know these things take time, but even just an update to say that its being worked on would amazing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I enabled it because hey, why not? Doesn't cost me anything extra then some more time logging in.

I am assuming much of this is more advanced login security. Such as geo locations, you can't be in NY and CA in less than 5 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As someone who owns a publication, I'm very thankful for this new security feature. My team is growing very rapidly and I really need all the security I can get as the owner/founder.

I know we all want several missing desktop apps and other features, and I do too. But yes I'm thankful for this too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Additionally, if you share your account with other people and haven’t enabled two-factor authentication, you may not want to join the Sentinel program, as it will increase your chance of being challenged during logins.

I wonder, so why not just force Sentinel program users to enable 2FA?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A fair bit of questions unanswered.

  • Why shouldn’t we just enable Sentinel?
  • How do we disable it?
  • Will apps normally stay logged in?
  • How would the experience be across platforms when combined with Fido2 / Yubikey?

I wish Proton made an easy to use recovery sheet that we could print out, similar to 1Password.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
  • It may make it more difficult to login such as 2FA code, geo location etc. More logs on logins, such as OS and so forth.
  • I enabled it and it allows me to disable from the same settings screen.
  • I was not signed out of any of my apps on any devices after enabling.
  • I'm not sure about security keys and this yet.

Also AI based, so it will probably be something that learns typical login behavior's such as geo-location, time of day, what service was used etc to ensure it matches your habits, if not or for extra security extra login steps required.