AMD's gaming graphics business looks like it's in terminal decline : amd

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

They write

"Of course, AMD is trying to get into the the AI training and inferencing game itself with the Instinct MI300 chip. And that, perhaps, is the main if modest cause for hope. If AMD can gain some traction in that huge market, it will not only be making lots of money, it will be in a position to do a similar thing to Nvidia and push some of that technology across into its gaming GPUs."

which strikes me as incorrect. AMD MI is pretty widespread in HPC. With margins lower in the consumer market it makes sense to focus on HPC.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Hopefully we start to see further cuts - AMD really needs to position itself as a value competitor to Nvidia. There's no reason the 7900 XTX or XT launched at the price they did, let alone the rest of the 7000 series.

[+] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Personally I'm getting rid of my GTX 1080 in favor of an AMD iGPU next time I upgrade, so it would seem to me that it's the right path.

[–] felsiq 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I don’t know how far down the line that upgrade might be, but I’ve recently used both a 1080 and ~~the latest-gen~~ (see reply below) an AMD igpu (7600x) and I gotta say the 1080 is still significantly more powerful. Maybe if the upgrade is soon hold off on selling the 1080 until you see if you’re satisfied with the igpu performance?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not even about performance; I just don't play anything that can justify a discreet GPU and I'm imagining the idle power draw is gonna be significantly better on a CPU with an integrated GPU than a CPU+GPU.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Alright, I'm gonna be that guy:

You said "discreet GPU", that would mean something like a GPU that is careful, guarded, and keeps your secrets.

I think you meant a "discrete GPU", which would mean a GPU that is distinct and separate from the rest of the system, so not built into the same silicon as the CPU or motherboard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

My GPU is very descreet! I store my diary on his VRAM and he never blabbers to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aren't 8600g and 8700g the latest iGPU offerings from AMD, with significant increases over 7000 line iGPUs? The 5000G series had better iGPUs than the 7000 series.

[–] felsiq 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow apparently I missed that whole launch, thank you for the correction

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

They launched earlier this year, but being AM5 it usually is still cheaper to grab a 5000 series processor and discrete GPU, but definitely nice for a SFF build.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The igpu in the 7600x is not meant for gaming. It can’t even run 1080p RuneScape 3 on normal settings without lag. Only runs fine with minimum settings. Even a GTX 770 is much more powerful.

[+] [email protected] -29 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Maybe if they weren't playing stupid games with the open source Linux graphics driver it would help. I know I won't be upgrading to a newer AMD card until that mess is properly sorted.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I thought the driver was in a decent place, is that not true? Where is the best place to read about the situation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Me, too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Same, and I thought that on the other hand Nvidia drivers were a mess

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

You are correct.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

What is the mess you are talking about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I switched from nvidia when the 6000 series of AMD GPU came out, and it made all my graphics issues go away, no joke. Nvidia's drivers are in a much worse spot these days.