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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Isn't the guy he shot very pro Russian as well?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It says in the article that his comments in closed meetings with Ukraine were conciliatory and that his pro-russian comments were for his domestic audience. Radical wasn't radical enough.

The article also quotes Xitter user Bubba3030 a pro Kremlin, pro trump, god loving, eagle flag champion, definitely not bot farm American who has a completely different take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It says in the article that his comments in closed meetings with Ukraine were conciliatory and that his pro-russian comments were for his domestic audience.

That's because he is hoping to help with rebuilding of Ukraine (because money). At home he is shit talking them, saying they should negotiate, stop fighting and cede territory to Russia all the while enabling local arms companies to export weapons (because that brings money again).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't expect fascists to act rationally.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

False flag?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know next to nothing, but it seems this guy's trying to play both fields so to speak, something old USSR patriots might not like. They are supposed to be "neutral", but have sold arms to Russia and also Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Big ew. I know the government there is getting more and more right wing and totalitarian, since they are Hungarys new friends.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So the man who shot him gave the reason he did so "because he stopped sending arms to Ukrane". The same man is linked to a pro-Russian extremist group? Either he is mentally ill, or someone is lying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think at this point it's all speculation central. Where did you hear the guy who shot him cited "because he stopped sending arms to Ukraine" as a motive, though? I only heard talk of him citing general discontent with the government, and a quote claiming he brought up the upcoming public broadcast reforms in Slovakia so far. Genuinely interested.

One way or the other, at this point, everything still seems possible: from a useful idiot for Putin, a false flag coordinated - maybe with blackmail or something - by Russia, a mental illness, the gunman genuinely wanting to support Ukraine in a misguided way (even though it's rare, yes, 180° turns in a few years are possible, especially in unstable people), or no direct relation to the war at all in his motives - it's still impossible to tell.

I also haven't heard of the journalist that brought the connection up or VS Square before myself, so, hard to say how trustworthy they are. But it sounds to be well-cited and founded at least.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Active disinformation. They take action along one geopolitical vector while using other assets like Marjorie Taylor Gringo to spin it against their enemies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Of course! Now we’re going to have politicians demanding fascism to “protect the EU”