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AMD Ryzen 9000 desktop series with 16, 12, 8 and 6 Zen5 core configs reportedly launches in July - VideoCardz.com (videocardz.com)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Again I'll be in the spot to get a 9000x or wait for the 9000x3d CPU variant, I hope this time the x3d one will not be too late, if I want the new Nvidia 5000 series GPU. (Praying they aren't so overpriced that this whole plan is worthless anyways)

I had that happen with my current 5900x and the 3000 series, but late release of the 5800x3d. But so far only a few games manage to bottleneck my CPU. I guess with frame generation this is more likely to happen. That extra L3 cache would be sweet though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Nvidia 5000 series pricing will make the 4000 series look like charity. You know it yourself!

Quite a few games I play (lot's of indie economic strategy/builder type games) would probably benefit from the extra cache, but I also don't feel like upgrading my 5800X to 5800X3D.

My bigger issue is the lack of support for Win10 in Zen 5. Win11 is basically Win10 with monetization/extra spyware junk (ads, BS AI trash) and a shittier UI (no taskbar on top).

So maybe it would be best to just update to 5800X3D and go with that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I didn't even know that you can't put Win10 on Zen5. Wtf!?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

IIRC it's an APU thing, and last I heard it was just a rumor (could be out of date). Either way, non-LTSC is EOL in a year and a half. If you're putting in a Zen 5 CPU, the best choice is realistically either Linux or Windows 11 Pro, since Pro can turn off all the bullshit through group policy. My Windows machine I have to have is on 11 Pro and it's basically Windows 10 with a slightly different taskbar. No Copilot bullshit, no ads, no Bing in Windows Search. If you're ok your taskbar on the bottom of the screen, IMO it's the best choice as long as you have to use Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

You probably can, but it doesn't look like it will be officially supported:

https://itc.ua/en/news/amd-processors-with-zen-5-architecture-will-not-support-windows-10-lenovo-manager/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But when am I going to get a proper successor to my RX 6650?

That was the last one that would actually fit in my ITX case for couch gaming. Two years later and the closest is the 7600 XT and there is basically no performance improvement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they make a few 7900 gre's in dial slot size with only 280 mm length

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My 6650 is 200 mm long. 280 is significantly longer.

But it's also mostly the hight. Powercolor Fighter 6650XT is 39mm tall and 200mm long (dual slot is fine). So many of these cards have plastic shit so that the height protrudes over the backplate and if vendors cared, it would fit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ah you must be using an even smaller case than me than - i use an ncase m1 v5

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fractal Design Era. Silver with the white oak top.

Gorgeous enough to go under the TV without drawing too much attention.

It can take cards up to almost 300mm in length, it's the height that's a problem. Especially since they insist on putting the extra power on top of most cards, so you have to add an additional 10 mm for just the cable on top of the plastic crap.

[Edit] Ryzen and Radeon make for a very compelling setup when combined with SteamOS.