We pasteurized milk for a reason, raw milk was a cause of a lot of issues.
There's not much of a reason to drink milk nowadays anyway. Oat milk has become so good in emulating the taste of cow milk that there's just no point in going for the original product with all its massive downsides.
Please give me recommendations of oat milk that tastes good. I’ve been desperately looking and/or hoping for bacterial production to kick off to make it more environmentally sustainable, but I haven’t found anything that tastes remotely as good (on its own or in a latte). I drink ultrafiltered milk for what it’s worth, usually 2% so I don’t need the creamy aspect, I just like the flavor.
For me, Planet Oat's milk is pretty good, but their "Barista Lovers" version is the most like regular milk to me. It's really white and acts the most like regular milk. This should just be the default milk they make, to be honest. It's somewhat hard to find, unfortunately, but they have a map at their site that can help.
I don't know what is available where you're living. I buy the Vemondo No Milk from my local Lidl. The name comes from the fact that we cannot legally call those milk alternatives "milk", so a lot of brands now go with "no milk" or "not milk" instead of "oat drink". lol
They have a Barista oat milk too but I found that one to be not that great, so I can at least encourage you to try different companies & product lines even within the same company.
I've personally found pea milk to be the substitute that most closely resembled cows milk in taste and texture.
The main reason to drink milk is not taste. It's the perfect mix of macros for growing kids. Plant based drinks cannot come close to real milk for nutrition.
I have yet to find a milk substitute that pours the same way, specifically over cereal, but even into a glass. Dairy milk holds itself together fairly well, but non-dairy milk tends to splatter all over the place.
It's a minor inconvenience that in no way counters said downsides of dairy milk, but it's a frequent reminder that it's not the same.
Well TBF outbreaks of AIDs causing viruses probably wasn't high on the list in 1386 but I agree with your sentiment.
AIDS-causing viruses? H5N1 is influenza... Have I missed some kind of news that we can get AIDS from the flu now??
Next you're going to tell me to stop drinking raw rat milk?
barf
If they had fed the mice ivermectin and turmeric first, and rubbed some urine in their eyes, they would have been immune, probably.
Is turmeric used as some kind of alt-medicine thing?
kagis
Ah. Apparently some researcher tried putting out fraudulent papers to make money on some company about two decades back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curcumin
Research fraud
Bharat Aggarwal, a former cancer researcher at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, had 29 papers retracted due to research fraud as of July 2021. Aggarwal's research had focused on potential anti-cancer properties of herbs and spices, particularly curcumin, and according to a March 2016 article in the Houston Chronicle, "attracted national media interest and laid the groundwork for ongoing clinical trials".
Aggarwal cofounded a company in 2004 called Curry Pharmaceuticals based in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, which planned to develop drugs based on synthetic analogs of curcumin. SignPath Pharma, a company seeking to develop liposomal formulations of curcumin, licensed three patents by Aggarwal related to that approach from MD Anderson in 2013.
FDA warnings about dietary supplements
Between 2018 and 2023, the FDA issued 29 warning letters to American manufacturers of dietary supplements for making false claims of anti-disease effects from using products containing curcumin. In each letter, the FDA stated that the supplement product was not an approved new drug because the "product is not generally recognized as safe and effective" for the advertised uses, that "new drugs may not be legally introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without prior approval from FDA", and that the "FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data and information demonstrating that the drug is safe and effective".
Alternative medicine
Though there is no evidence for the safety or efficacy of using curcumin as a therapy, some alternative medicine practitioners give it intravenously, supposedly as a treatment for numerous diseases. In 2017, two serious cases of adverse events were reported from curcumin or turmeric products—one severe allergic reaction and one death—that were caused by administration of a curcumin-polyethylene glycol (PEG40) emulsion product by a naturopath. One treatment caused anaphylaxis leading to death.
Does the "I only drink raw milk" crowd skew more in one direction politically?
I think you get a split of hard right conspiracy theorists and hard left granola crunchers.
pretty sure its like a 90:10 split there
And neither side would really be a loss.
I'm not a huge fan of milk, but if the FDA says that there's a potential to get H5N1 from drinking it straight from the cow, they don't have to tell me twice. Incidentally, I caught H1N1 on the Tokyo subway a few years back. It gave me a really bad fever for a couple of days. Would not recommend.
Poor mice :(
Jesus......
"Not to be outdone by China some sections of the USA populace tried to start their own pandemic in 2024 by drinking raw milk from H5N1 infected cows"
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