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I was with Reddit for 12 years and bounced between Rif and Apollo, I am sad I am losing both

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Think of it as fortuitous timing. Reddit is the old internet. Lemmy is the new world. You are one of its early movers. Come fill this place.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hehe, the actual "old internet" resembles the fediverse of today, it's what we thought the internet was supposed to be back then. Once corporations found the internet, we got the bullshit we have today.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still a little concerned what happens once instances start getting real traffic though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Same, but I am optimistic that decentralization will lead to better options for dealing with the problems as they happen.

Might be unpolished, but at least it is ours.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

More instances will need to spin up. People aren't used to having choice so it'll confuse them at first. Same thing with Linux distributions, people aren't used to having choice so they don't know how to go about comparing what's on offer. They'll accept making choices at the food market, but are too confused when it comes to OS's and social media, lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Too true.

On the plus side, many spurned app-developers seem to be checking out Lemmy and kbin as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

History repeats itself. The fediverse is going to go downhill too once it gets big enough for corporations to notice it. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except the code is open source, no matter how many corps invade the Fediverse, there will always be an option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it'll be the same story all over again. The big platform will be ruined and the alternative option will be smaller and therefore not as good (since user base directly contributes to quality when it comes to community-based platforms; it's the users who post all the content, so fewer users = less content).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, don't be so sure.

Email is often drawn as something similar to the fediverse. ... but if you've ever tried to run a small Mailserver, you'll quickly find that "the big corps" have created a walled garden that'll keep the "small fish" out.

It's all based on what the big players view as your "reputation". This is based on proprietary metrics (usually how many emails you send), but your reputation will determine if the email is delivered or not.

You can find more information here.

... but the point is that one big corps consolidate and reach the size (in terms of traffic/content) like Hotmail, Gmail, yahoo, etc - they will not hesitate to squeeze out the smaller fediverse fish to force them into paying to use the bigger pond.

Sadly ... this is just business as usual.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And users will facilitate that process by glomming on to certain instances thinking that it matters to which they belong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've been pondering this very reason. It's compelling for me to make my own instance so I have my own little slice of fediverse to call my own, and have access to the greater picture of it too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

JOIN MY WEBRING!

Maybe the Fediverse's logo should be a little animated gif a of a construction worker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"Webring".... good lord, that takes me back. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We should call the fediverse Webrings 2.0

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Old Internet" - I like it!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The old internet was great. I had a lot of fun with the local bbs, irc, and telnet talkers. It was a simpler time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Reddit became part of the shitty second season / crappy sequel era of the internet.

Also, can we not call the fediverse "Lemmy"? It's.a disservice to what we all are vying for here and sets us up to land right back into the same bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is the old internet.

Ehhh.

I'd timeline it something like this:

Interaction was on non-Web-based systems, mostly distributed

This was mostly pre-2000s and tended to go into decline in the 1990s or 2000s as Web-based platforms focusing on ease of use picked up users. Many of these were distributed.

  • Usenet (decline as a discussion forum dating to maybe late 1990s, though lots of pirated information is still transferred via it)

  • IRC, peaking around 2003 according to WP

  • Email (peaked later, in 2009, according to WP. Obviously still pretty healthy compared to the above two.

Web 2.0

People tend to shift towards interacting with each other on large websites; these tend to later acquire mobile apps to cater to smartphone users.

  • Facebook

  • YouTube

  • Twitter

  • Reddit (though a fair number of third-party clients did exist)

If the Fediverse manages to pick up a lot of people, it's probably somewhat-closer to the first phase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IRC was great back then. The other day I jumped on Undernet because I was feeling nostalgic. It's still running but didn't have much activity. The fact that it still exists made me smile.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Old, Centralised Internet

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

15 years on reddit for me. Exclusively old.reddit.com and apollo for most of that. That site is dead to me now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just feel bad for the developer. Years spent developing an app for it to be worthless. That has got to be deflating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends how you define 'worthless'. In the case of Apollo, it certainly wasn't financially worthless for him. And just to be clear, I have no issue with a quality app developer making money doing what they do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, actual take-home-pay aside from running Apollo, I have no doubt that Christian will be head-hunted like all hell from so many tech companies. I bet his future is solid gold after this. =)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I still feel bad for them. They created SO MUCH value for reddit, only to be kicked in the teeth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Me too. RIP two best apps. Reddit is dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well the good news is that the RIF dev is working on an app for Tildes. So god-willing at least it will stick exist in some form.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

tildes is invite only right now though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Does anyone have an invite?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully Tildes stops the invite only thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I understand it for them. They're a slower, more mature forum - they don't want to be Reddit. I've got an account there and I enjoy my time there, but I've been using Kbin instead of Reddit more often.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

For me, it was JoeyforReddit on Android. What an excellent app! I was able to read at length because I could select my own font, sizes and color. It made for very easy reading on my eyes.

I love being here but am hoping for apps for these new socials. I cannot do the sans serif fonts without eye pain. I think the reading flow isn't smooth. So improvements needed and will be well received.

Nice to see you all here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm genuinely sad. Not to be dramatic, but there were times where Reddit saved my life. Seeing the number of comments and posts I had made while I was scrubbing my account hit me harder than I thought it would.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This was my sentiment two weeks ago, and I made an "is anyone else sad?" post.

It eventually devolved into a "ding ding, the witch is dead!" situation!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

but there were times where Reddit saved my life.

Yep, if it weren't for their stopsmoking sub, I'd probably be dead today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's sad, but it seems to me you adapted to the fediverse, I see you on my frontpage every time I check it, great content, good job!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep. Sucks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Artemis and Memmy are both Apollo inspired

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was always an old.reddit.com user on both desktop and Android so I didn't think the loss of the apps would make too much difference to me.

Yeesh was I wrong; you can already see the falloff in content over there now.

And I am really sick of seeing John Oliver pics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@Girlparts I'm running PowerDelete Suite right now and it is very bittersweet for me. 12 years of heavy participation, poof, gone like dry leaves in the breeze.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was about to make a post like this. Trying to explain this whole situation to someone this morning, and found myself feeling way more feelings than I expected to feel over losing an app.

But it's more than an app. For the last 7 years, it's where my nerds hang out. It's where I could get actual humans responding to weird questions.

It's also the place where I often got shouted down and told in many ways that I'm stupid.

I expected these two things to balance each other out, but no. I'm sad to lose Reddit, upset that the reason is greed, and a little apprehensive about relying on Kbin for all my forum contend from now on. It's been great here so far, but I'm only just getting started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

12 years for me as well, but from my point of view I'd say good riddance. Reddit has been gone to shit over the past ~5 years. I will miss Relay though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Today is officially gonna be the last day that I will argue with righties and centrists on r/conservative

[–] gmanz2142 1 points 1 year ago

Just hit a decade with Reddit, deleted my own account a couple of minutes ago. Sync was the only way I browsed Reddit content, can't wait for Lemmy's version to release.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I felt this, but as the end of the month drew nearer and I adjusted to the idea of losing Reddit more, it has actually felt like a really cathartic process for me. Using PowerDeleteSuite on my profile, creating a new one here, searching for new communities within it. I honestly think this change will be a net positive for me personally. Reddit was absolutely swamped in noise and low quality content, it had been for years. A communal shift into a new world, that holds different values at the forefront, and by default (smaller, federated communities) content quality should improve. It reminds me a little of the old message board days.

I'm just waiting on a kbin app that goes at least some way to being as good an experience as Apollo was, as I'm mostly a mobile user.

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