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Scientists tracking the spread of bird flu are increasingly concerned that gaps in surveillance may keep them several steps behind a new pandemic, according to Reuters interviews with more than a dozen leading disease experts.

Many of them have been monitoring the new subtype of H5N1 avian flu in migratory birds since 2020. But the spread of the virus to 129 dairy herds in 12 U.S. states, opens new tab signals a change that could bring it closer to becoming transmissible between humans. Infections also have been found in other mammals, from alpacas to house cats.

"It almost seems like a pandemic unfolding in slow motion," said Scott Hensley, a professor of microbiology at the University of Pennsylvania. "Right now, the threat is pretty low ... but that could change in a heartbeat." The earlier the warning of a jump to humans, the sooner global health officials can take steps to protect people by launching vaccine development, wide-scale testing and containment measures.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The earlier the warning of a jump to humans, the sooner global health officials can take steps to protect people by launching vaccine development, wide-scale testing and containment measures.

Anyone else not feeling optimistic?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can't tell you the last time I felt optimistic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Possibly. That's the year I moved out of my parents' house.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are constantly pessimistic, spending so much time on places like Lemmy is probably at least part of the problem.

Take a break.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been constantly pessimistic since 1977.

Do you have a website link for someone who constantly attacks a person who isn't talking to them?

Because I'm getting really tired of you harassing me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not attacking you, I'm offering you up a respite for your mental health. We all need it sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do not believe for one second after all of the previous times you've treated me like shit that this comes from a place of genuine concern?

Also, because I'm not a religious person, I listen to mental health advice from doctors. Where did you get your psychology degree from?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have lots of reasons that I am critical about how you use your intelligence, but I assure you I hold no ill will towards you.

Where did you get your psychology degree from?

Nowhere, which is why I linked to a Harvard website.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I assure you I hold no ill will towards you.

Sorry, you've proven otherwise.

Nowhere, which is why I linked to a Harvard website.

Then keep your mental health advice to yourself. I have no interest in it. This should be your cue to go away and not give me advice I didn't want.

In fact, if I ever want your advice on anything, I'll let you know.

Otherwise, my reaction from now on will just be to repeatedly tell you to go away and stop harassing me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, you’ve proven otherwise.

If you feel that way, then I'm sorry for giving the wrong impression. But I assure you it's not the case.

Otherwise, my reaction from now on will just be to repeatedly tell you to go away and stop harassing me.

The better way to get me to stop responding to you is to simply not respond to me; I'm not going to respond to the same post over and over again until you respond. If we are having a back-and-forth, I would hardly call that "harassment."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Go away and stop harassing me.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's okay, it will clearly be fake just like COVID and it will also be over in a few months like Elon predicted about COVID and you can fix it with horse paste and a UV light up your ass, so you don't need a mask or anything like the COVID vaccine that killed everyone who got it within a year, as predicted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It depends when it launches and goes… viral (sorry..). If there’s a dem in office, it’s a real pandemic and we aren’t doing nearly enough and 10,000 people are dying every second, you lib monsters!! If it’s a repub in office it’s fake news poopvirus and why are you trampling on my poopeating freedums??

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure we will take all the lessons we learned with the COVID pandemic and apply then to this new threat.

Lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Learning #1: people are dicks

Okay, lfg!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

I’m so excited for us to have two simultaneous pandemics.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Don’t we have a bird flu vaccine already though?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What do you think the odds are of us getting people who refuse to take the Covid vaccine to take the bird flu vaccine?
Unvaccinated people become mutation factories and the disease mutates so that the vaccine is no longer effective, that's why it's important to have everyone vaccinated to prevent the outbreak from worsening.
If only 1/2 of people get the vaccine, we're fucked.
I firmly believe when it comes to serious medical issues like this, personal freedom of choice can just go fuck itself.
You don't want to be vaccinated? Too bad, we'll tie you down and give it to you anyway.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think H5N1’s 50% mortality rate would do most of the heavy lifting on that front, but people are dumb. Who knows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

How much would it mutate before it was through getting through those people to the point that the vaccine loses effectiveness? They're a danger to us too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I don't have one. Do you?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Viruses evolve, some quite quickly. The flu isn't the fastest (looking at you, HIV), but it's up there. Over time, existing vaccines train your body to fight something that doesn't quite match what's in the wild (i.e. efficacy goes down with time). That's why there's a different seasonal flu vaccine every year.

They create flu vaccines on a yearly cycle, and a pandemic can kick off in a matter of weeks and months, so if it doesn't match the preplanned cycle, they'll have to invest more resources to creating the most up to date vaccine off-cycle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think similarly to a regular flu jab, there's probably not one for this variant yet.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was wrong, there are actually two vaccines ready to go if need be

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's good to know. And if it is needed, we'll be in for another self-selected culling of anti-vaxxers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't know if it's like other influenza vaccines, but their effectiveness could be a lot higher. That might be easier when we're just talking about one specific strain. I don't really know enough about the science.